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I have created a test document to try various things, and have discovered that the text wrap function is either not working properly or I am not.  Here is an iPhoto of what I am trying to do.    I have tried several times . And nothing.  In case you would like the . afpub file I will send it below.

 

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here is the file where this is happening.

 

fiddling around.afpub


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Choose the Text Frame and see if the "ignore text wrap" is checked in the Text Frame studio.


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12 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Choose the Text Frame and see if the "ignore text wrap" is checked in the Text Frame studio.

I looked at the OP's file, and "ignore text wrap" is not set.

History isn't available in his file, so I'm not sure of everything he's done, but even after making a new page with a new text frame, wrapping doesn't work in that document. I'm not sure what's going on.


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Checked or unchecked, it doesn't make any difference.  I have since discovered that a PDF imported in Publisher and saved as an .afpub file in points measurements wraps text perfectly around a  picture frame which I have experimentally added.  But if I change the document setup from points to picas, and then try to wrap text using pica wrap  settings, it wraps it alright, but almost 3/4ths the way across the page.  For example, instead of a 2 pica right margin it is more like 25 picas.   I then tried going back to the "fiddling around" document, and changed its settings to points from picas.  Then tried text wrap.  Nothing. 


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I also checked to see if having the document in picas was an issue, and it's not. I also checked to see if the justification you're using was an issue, but that didn't help either.


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3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I looked at the OP's file, and "ignore text wrap" is not set.

History isn't available in his file, so I'm not sure of everything he's done, but even after making a new page with a new text frame, wrapping doesn't work in that document. I'm not sure what's going on.

Even though I am a she and not a he, I'm not sure either.


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Sorry; I try to avoid gendered pronouns in situations like this, but forgot this time.


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2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Sorry; I try to avoid gendered pronouns in situations like this, but forgot this time.

No problem!  By the time I get text wrap sorted out I am going to be the wreck of my former self -- not matter who or what!


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I have tried anotherInDesign document exported as a PDF and imported into Publisher and saved as an .afpub.   Same thing happens.  As long as the document is set up using points, text wrap works.  But if the .afpub document setup is changed to picas, text wrap goes wildly wrong.

I am pretty sure this is an interface problem (picas/points).  


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I wonder if it's more likely to be related to InDesign exported to PDF and imported to Publisher. I created a document in picas and text wrap worked just fine.

Or could be an issue related solely to PDF.


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I just downloaded the file and 'ignore text wraps' is enabled, turn it off and text-wrap works fine - but from what Walt says it's opening up different on Windows to Mac?

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Just now, Wosven said:

In Windows it appear as not enabled, but if you enable and unable "Ignore text wrap", it's behaving.

Very strange.

 

7 minutes ago, iaing said:

I just downloaded the file and 'ignore text wraps' is enabled, turn it off and text-wrap works fine - but from what Walt says it's opening up different on Windows to Mac?

Yes, definitely unusual.


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5 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I wonder if it's more likely to be related to InDesign exported to PDF and imported to Publisher. I created a document in picas and text wrap worked just fine.

Or could be an issue related solely to PDF.

 

5 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Very strange.

 

Yes, definitely unusual.

Not related to InDesign.  Nor to PDF in this case.    The document with the text wrap problem (fiddling around .afpub) was created as a new document in Publisher v. 140.  I am using a MAC, OS Sierra. And I am confused by the entry from iaing.   I am trying to wrap text around an image.  Not have the text  (such as it was — full of typos and silly words) appear below the image.   I am sticking with my comments of 5 hours ago.  I think this is apparently a MAC- related interface problem.


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Go to Text > Text Wrap > Show Text Wrap Settings choose the picture and click on one of the types of text wrap Jump, Square or Tight. Select the Text Frame, open the Text Frame Studio and Click the Ignore Text Wrap check box. I have a short film but I am having trouble uploading it.


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1 hour ago, jmwellborn said:

 I think this is apparently a MAC- related interface problem.


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8 hours ago, Chris_K said:

As the ignore text wra option is enabled this seems to be working fine. I shall log that it is not being correctly reflected when the document is opened in Windows

Thanks everybody.  I am using MAC and have followed Old Bruce's video.   I was using the Text Wrap instructions contained in the Affinity Publisher Help section, which unfortunately doesn't state that you have to click on the frame first, then open the Text Frame studio, unclick the Ignore Text Wrap box, then click on the picture frame then click on the Text Wrap icons.   The Help entry says to click on the Picture frame and proceed.  Nothing about Ignore Text Wrap.

I created a new file, entered some new text, then entered two images.  Went through the prescribed procedure.The wrap feature worked well.  I saved the file, closed it, and opened it again.  Entered a third image.  II was pretty disappointing to discover that although I followed the prescribed steps, the third image threw the text off.  I am attaching both (lousy pictures, per iPhone). 

So I have some suggestions.  1) Be sure to clarify this procedure when the commercial version comes out with an upgraded Help section.  2).   Provide us with an option to a default position of Ignore Text Wrap if that is essential to wrapping text (for those of us who work with very large numbers of illustrations in a single file so that we don't have to go through so many click this, then click that, then click this, and then click thats.    3).  Help me figure out why the third image won't wrap correctly using the same procedure as the first two.

Sorry to be such a pest.  Hopefully I am the only idiot out there.  Just to prove it, I attached the photos in the wrong order.   Sigh.

 

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11 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

2).   Provide us with an option to a default position of Ignore Text Wrap if that is essential to wrapping text (for those of us who work with very large numbers of illustrations in a single file so that we don't have to go through so many click this, then click that, then click this, and then click thats.

+ 1 on that.

9 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

3).  Help me figure out why the third image won't wrap correctly using the same procedure as the first two.

Tighten the kerning on the last "peppers" and it'll fit. Or maybe all the words.


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6 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

+ 1 on that.

Tighten the kerning on the last "peppers" and it'll fit. Or maybe all the words.

Tightening the kerning didn't work.  What I had to do was to change the text wrap margins.  So here is the test document, post-fiddling.   Thank you again.  more fiddling.afpub


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Helps to add an s after pepper.   Duh.


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25 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

I was using the Text Wrap instructions contained in the Affinity Publisher Help section, which unfortunately doesn't state that you have to click on the frame first, then open the Text Frame studio, unclick the Ignore Text Wrap box

You shouldn't need to do that. The question is, how did "Ignore Text Wrap" get set in the first place? It's not the default, but perhaps you were playing around and set that option, and then it was remembered for future use.

(On the other hand, why didn't your "Ignore Text Wrap" show up when the file is opened on Windows? There is something strange going on.)


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I am not using Windows.  I am using Mac OS Sierra.


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Just now, jmwellborn said:

I am not using Windows.  I am using Mac OS Sierra.

I know. But the files are supposed to be compatible, and the defaults are (supposed to be) the same on both systems, too.

By default, text frames obey text wrapping, unless the user turns it off.

So, by default, a user does not need to open the text frame and modify that setting, and so the instructions don't need to mention that :)


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