Jak Gunn Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Hi all, can anyone point me to a tutorial of how to produce a proper Cinemascope type image at 16:9 please? I have managed to produce a 16:9 Cinemascope in Photoshop, I would love to be able to do the same in Affinity. Many thanks indeed Quote
DarkClown Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Jak, what exactly want to do? Just start a new document with the aspect ratio of 16:9 ... or use the crop tool with a custom ratio of 16:9 on an existing document. Quote i7-12700KF, 3.60 GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, Wacom Intuos 4 Tablet, Windows 11 Pro - AP, AD and APublisher V1 and V2https://www.timobierbaum.com
Jak Gunn Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 OK. 16:9 is the final document size with a 2.35:1 image. How can I achieve that please? The dimensions are quite important to match the original Cinemascope films and aspect ratios. Quote
Alfred Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 16 divided by 2.35 is 6.8, so for a frame height of 9 units you're going to have black bars (of width 1.1 units each) at the top and bottom, as in your screenshot. Jak Gunn 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
Jak Gunn Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 Excellent, so is there a tutorial using Affinity on this forum for me to follow please? Quote
DarkClown Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 16:9 == 2,35:x (where x is the factor for y canvas increase) -> x=1,322 When you have your 2,35:1 document open, got to Document>Resize Canvas in the menue Unlock the lock-symbol between hight and width and multiply your y dimensions with 1,322 Set the ancor point to the middle and press OK. Now you can fill the newly created areas with black (or whatever you like them to be) Jak Gunn 1 Quote i7-12700KF, 3.60 GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, Wacom Intuos 4 Tablet, Windows 11 Pro - AP, AD and APublisher V1 and V2https://www.timobierbaum.com
Jak Gunn Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 Thank you DarkClown. I'll give that a whirl as soon as I can. Quote
Jak Gunn Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 Hi all, an update. I open my image and then crop to 2.35:1. That works fine. I've saved that crop as a custom ratio. That is now the correct aspect ratio for the final complete image. Using the guides in this post, thank you all, I then resize canvas. When I apply an amount all I manage to achieve is a reclaim of my original image. It does not give me a blank increase that I can fill with black? What am I doing wrong please? Quote
HVDB Photography Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 It should !! Watch this short video clip ... Canvas_resize.mp4 Quote Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB
Jak Gunn Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 Many thanks indeed. That is the procedure I am following, but when I click resize, I just reclaim the part of the image I cropped out? Not a blank canvas? Quote
HVDB Photography Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 Did you unlock the lock-symbol between hight and width ???? Quote Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB
Jak Gunn Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 Another curious thing, my buttons 'Resize' and 'Cancel' are opposite to yours. My Cancel is to the left, and Resize is to the right. Quote
Staff MEB Posted January 12, 2018 Staff Posted January 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, Jak Gunn said: Many thanks indeed. That is the procedure I am following, but when I click resize, I just reclaim the part of the image I cropped out? Not a blank canvas? Hi Jak Gunn Welcome to Affinity Forums Before resizing, right-click the image/layer in the Layers panel and select Rasterise to get rid of the cropped parts (which are just hidden - crop in Affinity Photo is non-destructive), then perform the resize as usual. Jak Gunn 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
Jak Gunn Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, MEB said: Hi Jak Gunn Welcome to Affinity Forums Before resizing, right-click the image/layer and select Rasterise to get rid of the cropped parts (which are just hidden - crop in Affinity Photo is non-destructive), then perform the resize as usual. Many thanks for the welcome, and thank you for the tip That works just fine, thank you Quote
Jak Gunn Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, HVDB Fotografie said: It should !! Watch this short video clip ... Canvas_resize.mp4 Many thanks indeed for the clip, a great help HVDB Photography 1 Quote
TestTools Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 Just in case you are doing this work so that it can go to a cinema projector with ‘Scope settings, you might consider that modern cinema uses digital cinema projectors that are pixel based – each color on the screen is sent through the lens from chips that have an exact number of mirrors creating the pixels. So, though your ratios are correct I just wanted to put in the record, for anyone’s future use, the exact pixels dimensions. There are two standard, defined sizes, Flat and Scope, and two standard projection ‘sizes’, 4K and 2k. Flat 4k (1.85:1): 3996 x 2160 Flat 2k (1.85:1): 1998 x 1080 Scope 4k (2.39:1): 4096 x 1716 Scope 2k (2.39:1): 2048 x 858 If your picture is going to be used through a projector, one thing to be certain of is: don’t include the black bars on your picture. If you do the internal settings will likely squeeze the picture in some manner that you won’t desire. Another thing to be concerned with, if your photo is going to a cinema projector, is that the cinema standard is 12 bit TIFF, so export to 16 bits, not 8. It is better that the DCP (Digital Cinema Package) creation tool converts the 16 bit image than an 8. Good luck to us all. CJ Flynn cinematesttools.com Alfred 1 Quote
John Rostron Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 @TestTools, I recall from my youth, when Cinemascope first appeared, that the actual image was compressed horizontally, and the projector used an anamorphic lens to expand this axis onto the screen. Firstly, is my memory correct? Secondly, if so, is a similar system used today? Looking at @Jak Gunn's original image, I wonder if it would not be better to start with several images merged into a panorama. John Quote Windows 11, Affinity Photo 2.4.2 Designer 2.4.2 and Publisher 2.4.2 (mainly Photo). CPU: Intel Core i5 8500 @ 3.00GHz. RAM: 32.0GB DDR4 @ 1063MHz, Graphics: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
TestTools Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 Your memory is correct John. That was the way that they could effectively use the film. Now, the product delivered to the cinema theater has had the magic done in post-production. The chips in the projector just plays the file through a ‘normal’ (very expensive) high contrast lens. John Rostron 1 Quote
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