macdabby Posted January 12 Posted January 12 I know the number of Linux users is small compared to Mac and Windows, but this is one app that is tremendously missed in the Linux market. I know it's not as easy as just compiling the app on another OS and it will take a lot of work. But I'm curious if we could crowd fund the cost of the port. Id happily contribute much more than the cost of the app. Posted from my Tuxedo running Debian with gnome. Muirén and Coestar 2 Quote
AffinityMakesMeWonder Posted January 12 Posted January 12 52 minutes ago, macdabby said: I know the number of Linux users is small compared to Mac and Windows, but this is one app that is tremendously missed in the Linux market. I know it's not as easy as just compiling the app on another OS and it will take a lot of work. But I'm curious if we could crowd fund the cost of the port. Id happily contribute much more than the cost of the app. Posted from my Tuxedo running Debian with gnome. FYI - if Adobe thought Linux is an amazing platform, then would they certainly already have Adobes all apps on the Linux system. But, there’s no money to be earned for Adobe on Linux, and that is just like Serif Labs thinking about Linux - to much effort, small amount of cash… Even if the Linux community could crowdfunding Serif Labs to release Affinity Suite on Linux, the big future costs are updates, maintenance of the Affinity apps etc etc… So, don’t dream to much, you may be deeply disappointed waiting waiting waiting.. PaulEC, Pšenda and Alfred 3 Quote Happy guy playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typographic, photographing, Color & forms, AND, old Synthesizers from the 1980-1990’s… Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021 connected to an 32” curved 5K external display, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015 - also an Lenovo iMac i7 clone with 24” touch screen and Windows 10…
2ddpainter Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Well, being willing/able to wait seems to me to be a general skill that one should master with Affinity. If i look at all the improvements that have been requested for years. Quote
fde101 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Are you also going to crowd fund a few years of the cost of maintaining the port after it is created - of additional tech support resources, the additional testers needed to support testing the Linux version after each release, the additional documentation to write and maintain, the additional work to implement each new feature for each subsequent release which occurs over those years, the cost to develop bug fixes for each subsequent version, ...? There are ongoing costs, not just initial development costs, involved in supporting an additional platform. If Serif were to make this port on the basis of crowdfunding, that funding would likely need to cover the cost of several years of salaries for a handful of additional people in addition to the cost of the initial porting work itself, or it still wouldn't make sense for them to consider this, if the decision even has anything to do with the cost in the first place. PaulEC, Alfred, Snapseed and 1 other 3 1 Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 13 Posted January 13 13 hours ago, macdabby said: But I'm curious if we could crowd fund the cost of the port. Id happily contribute much more than the cost of the app. Serif have said they are not interested in crowd-funding, and would not accept it. I doubt that Canva would, either. Snapseed 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Snapseed Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 10:25 PM, macdabby said: I know the number of Linux users is small compared to Mac and Windows, but this is one app that is tremendously missed in the Linux market. I know it's not as easy as just compiling the app on another OS and it will take a lot of work. But I'm curious if we could crowd fund the cost of the port. Id happily contribute much more than the cost of the app. Posted from my Tuxedo running Debian with gnome. Therein lies the very core of the problem. Linux has a desktop market share of 4% the last time l checked and it is way behind macOS's 14% market share. That is why neither Serif Europe nor Adobe make Linux versions of their software products because it just isn't currently profitable to make those Linux versions. PaulEC 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted January 14 Posted January 14 50 minutes ago, Snapseed said: Linux has a desktop market share of 4% However, the presence on the desktop market is only one (less important) indicator, because even the aforementioned 4.1% of several billion desktops is already a very interesting number. From the point of view of sales and thus the profitability of application development and maintenance, a much more important indicator is how many of these users really need/want this application, and are willing to really pay for it. And here, in my opinion, is a big problem, because the need + willingness to pay will not sufficiently cover the development costs. PaulEC 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
fde101 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Pšenda said: the need + willingness to pay will not sufficiently cover the development costs. For now perhaps. As more users abandon Windows and transition to Linux or other solutions, they may wind up switching to other applications simply because these do not work on their platform of choice (at least not without jumping through major hoops). Serif may wind up feeling the effect of that when the next major version upgrade then comes around. It probably won't be a measurable impact on 3.0, but time will tell what happens thereafter. Quote
PaulEC Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 10:39 PM, Muirén said: That would be a dream come true! "A dream to some, a nightmare to others!" Quote Acer XC-895 : Windows 11 Home : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 – Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) – Also all apps on 12.9" (Second Generation) iPad Pro, OS Version 17.7.5 Old Lenovo laptop : Windows 10 - v1 and latest beta versions of all Affinity apps – Ancient Toshiba laptop: Vista - PagePlus X9, DrawPlus X8, PhotoPlus X8 etc
alpert Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) I'm a long time OSX user at work and use Adobe Suite daily. And since last year I start using linux at home and I love it. I use Cachyos with Gnome desktop and I feel right at home coming from OSX. It's fast, reliable and so much comfortable than using windows for sure. Last year linux desktop database almost doubled and you must be blind to not see the upcoming potential; Steam Deck+Steam app on linux= availability of more games on linux system+windows 12 fiasco of Microsoft. Yes there is potential and if more software like Affinity at least try once, I believe won't be disappointed. On linux Krita+Inkspace+Kdenlive are nice alternatives but me and many people like me would love to see Affinity there too. OSX is freebsd/unix, I don't believe adopting Affinity Suite to Linux is harder than adapting it to Windows. Thanks to flatpaks, installation and dependency problems are over too.. Edited January 15 by alpert Quote
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