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1 hour ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

There is no print range text input field in Affinity?

There is in Affinity Publisher but not the others. See the To print single, multiple or all pages: section of  https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Publishing/print.html :

 

  • From the File menu, select Print.
  • In the Print Options pop-up menu, select Range and Scale, then set your Range and Pages options. For the latter, you can use '1,3,5', '1-5', '1,3 4-6' or other combinations.
  • Click Print.

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20 hours ago, R C-R said:

There is in Affinity Publisher but not the others. See the To print single, multiple or all pages: section of  https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Publishing/print.html :

  • From the File menu, select Print.
  • In the Print Options pop-up menu, select Range and Scale, then set your Range and Pages options. For the latter, you can use '1,3,5', '1-5', '1,3 4-6' or other combinations.
  • Click Print.

Thanks @R C-R

Hm, rather strange limitation. I had opened a multi page PDF in Designer, and of course I didn't see this option there:

Designer:

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 Same file in Publisher:

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I simply no longer believe that there are any professional graphic designers here. Everything follows suit. Just everything.

 

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5 minutes ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

rather strange limitation

Did you have Pages in Designer? I think you probably had Artboards, instead. And thus having a Page range in the print dialog wouldn't help. 

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13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Did you have Pages in Designer? I think you probably had Artboards, instead. And thus having a Page range in the print dialog wouldn't help. 

In a few quick tests on my Mac, opening a multi-page PDF in AD opens them as artboards, but their layer names include "Page" plus a page number, giving the impression that they are pages.

EDIT: when I open a multi-page PDF in AD & switch from "All Pages" to "Load Pages:" in the page range field, I can use the same 1, 3, 6-10, etc. specifiers top open just those pages.

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11 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Did you have Pages in Designer? I think you probably had Artboards, instead. And thus having a Page range in the print dialog wouldn't help. 

No, I only use Designer - it was PDF’s I imported to alter certain element that needed to be updated, but then I couldn’t print the range that was the only pages I needed to distribute. I instantly jumped into Adobe Reader that did the job. We don’t have Publisher installed at all and I never use artboards.

I simply no longer believe that there are any professional graphic designers here. Everything follows suit. Just everything.

 

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11 hours ago, R C-R said:

EDIT: when I open a multi-page PDF in AD & switch from "All Pages" to "Load Pages:" in the page range field, I can use the same 1, 3, 6-10, etc. specifiers top open just those pages.

Yes, but that's referring to the PDF pages, not pages in the Affinity document.

11 hours ago, R C-R said:

In a few quick tests on my Mac, opening a multi-page PDF in AD opens them as artboards, but their layer names include "Page" plus a page number, giving the impression that they are pages.

Yes, that may be confusing some users. Still, they are Artboards if you Open the PDF in Designer. In Publisher you get actual pages, named simply 1, 2, 3, ... which can be specified in a page range field.

I can't try it right now, but suppose you Open a Publisher .afpub file, with Pages, in Designer. Does the Print dialog then include the page range?

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Just now, Bit Dissapointed said:

No, I only use Designer - it was PDF’s I imported to alter certain element that needed to be updated, but then I couldn’t print the range that was the only pages I needed to distribute. I instantly jumped into Adobe Reader that did the job. We don’t have Publisher installed at all and I never use artboards.

But you do use Artboards if you Open a PDF. Look in the Layers panel. Each of those things named Page 1, Page 2, etc. is an Artboard.

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    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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12 hours ago, R C-R said:

In a few quick tests on my Mac, opening a multi-page PDF in AD opens them as artboards, but their layer names include "Page" plus a page number, giving the impression that they are pages.

EDIT: when I open a multi-page PDF in AD & switch from "All Pages" to "Load Pages:" in the page range field, I can use the same 1, 3, 6-10, etc. specifiers top open just those pages.

I can only tell I opened a PDF from InDesign I guess with 20+ pages into Designer. Altered some details on a few. Could not print even one single range from there so I exported to PDF (I had to do that anyway) and could print ranges from Adobe Reader flawlessly.

When I import PDF’s into Designer, they are imported as pages. If I import them in Publisher, they are imported as pages. When I from Designer export the imported PDF from InDesign and import it in Publisher, the pages are imported as pages. Not Artboards I am sure.

So the issue at hand is that print ranges are disabled by Serif in Designer. A real royal pain in the ass with no logic now that Designer does import PDF’s with several pages. When this PDF is a design guideline document it is annoying that you cannot print the range of 10 pages out of 40 - pages you edited, but have to use a second Affinity program for that elementary task. Or just use Adobe Reader.

No one buys a universal license to print ranges so there is only Designer on these machines. 

I simply no longer believe that there are any professional graphic designers here. Everything follows suit. Just everything.

 

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17 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

But you do use Artboards if you Open a PDF. Look in the Layers panel. Each of those things named Page 1, Page 2, etc. is an Artboard.

No, they are represented as such. Export to Publisher (on my own machine here) and pages are pages and can be printed as ranges of pages.

See the usability mess here and the limitations?

I simply no longer believe that there are any professional graphic designers here. Everything follows suit. Just everything.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

No, they are represented as such. Export to Publisher (on my own machine here) and pages are pages and can be printed as ranges of pages.

No, they are not represented as Artboards; they are Artboards. Designer does not have Pages, unless you open an Affinity document (.afpub) created by Publisher. Except for that case, you will have Artboards.

If you Save that file (.afdesign) and Open it in Publisher, you will still see Artboards, not Pages.

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You can even print ranges of the PDF exported from Designer from macOS picture viewer! 

The issue here is complexity, limitations and that only hobbyists have time for this. Wasted costly time struggling with that bull at work and here I am in my spare time, wasting that too, trying to understand. Once again the issue is choices made in Nottingham.

I simply no longer believe that there are any professional graphic designers here. Everything follows suit. Just everything.

 

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1 minute ago, walt.farrell said:

No, they are not represented as Artboards; they are Artboards. Designer does not have Pages, unless you open an Affinity document (.afpub) created by Publisher. Except for that case, you will have Artboards.

If you Save that file (.afdesign) and Open it in Publisher, you will still see Artboards, not Pages.

Ah, I see. I never saved the file in Designer format; made some trivial but edits, exported to PDF. Old manual. No Publisher at work.

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1 hour ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

A real royal pain in the ass with no logic now that Designer does import PDF’s with several pages. When this PDF is a design guideline document it is annoying that you cannot print the range of 10 pages out of 40 - pages you edited, but have to use a second Affinity program for that elementary task.

Can’t you simply delete the unwanted pages temporarily (i.e. without saving the amended document) and then print the pages that remain? The safest way to do this, of course, is to work on a copy of the document so that the original is still there as a separate file if you absentmindedly resave the truncated version.

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1 hour ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

Ah, I see. I never saved the file in Designer format; made some trivial but edits, exported to PDF.

You don't have to save multi-page PDFs in the Affinity native file format to see that in AD they open with artboards rather than pages. Just open an existing one in AD & hover the pointer over the # icon in the layers panel for one of the layers named "Page" plus a number & wait for the tooltip to appear:

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Also note that for layer names "page" does not necessarily indicate the layer is a page because layers can have any name you assign to them.

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5 minutes ago, Alfred said:

Can’t you simply delete the unwanted pages temporarily (i.e. without saving the amended document) and then print the pages that remain? The safest way to do this, of course, is to work on a copy of the document so that the original is still there as a separate file if you absentmindedly resave the truncated version.

Instead, I would open the PDF copy using the Page range option, specify the pages I wanted to print using the same 1,2, 6-12, etc. method that APub supports, print that, & close the file without saving it.

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Just now, R C-R said:

Instead, I would open the PDF copy using the Page range option, specify the pages I wanted to print using the same 1,2, 6-12, etc. method that APub supports, print that, & close the file without saving it.

Nah, much too easy! :D

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5 hours ago, Alfred said:

Can’t you simply delete the unwanted pages temporarily (i.e. without saving the amended document) and then print the pages that remain? The safest way to do this, of course, is to work on a copy of the document so that the original is still there as a separate file if you absentmindedly resave the truncated version.

There is no simplicity about that. No thank you.

Next time, I will start Illustrator. See following post.

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8 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I can't try it right now, but suppose you Open a Publisher .afpub file, with Pages, in Designer. Does the Print dialog then include the page range?

No, it does not. You can test this for yourself when you have the time with this small (<1 MB) test file containing just a few of @MikeTO's APub guide pages: test.afpub

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12 minutes ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

There is no simplicity about that. No thank you.

Next time, I will start Illustrator. See following post.


Isn’t @R C-R’s suggested workflow simple enough? :/

 

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3 minutes ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

There is no simplicity about that. No thank you.

But if you do not have access to APub you can do as I suggested above & open multi-page PDF's using the AD Load pages range option, something like this:

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Affinity is not for professionals. It's as simple as that. You're saying it indirectly all over forums with these grotesque workarounds one has to memorize in an idiotic and impossible manner, or clutter one's desktop with notes like in a mad person's study.

Take a look. Adobe Illustrator, I just had to boot up in a work context on a Sunday evening, sigh. Adobe Illustrator prints fine ranges of artboards as well as pages. I should have been smarter and carried out professional work in professional software. Not get stuck in Affinity. Again. I have thrived well with multiple programs in my workflows, but Serif simply does not have the level to be used seriously in a workplace. 

By the way, I chose Microsoft Print to PDF to anonymize the image before anyone comes up with clever tips.

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4 minutes ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

Affinity is not for professionals. It's as simple as that. You're saying it indirectly all over forums with these grotesque workarounds one has to memorize in an idiotic and impossible manner, or clutter one's desktop with notes like in a mad person's study.

OK, so you’re a bit disappointed (sorry, ‘bit dissapointed’): we get that. But there are clearly many people who use the Affinity apps successfully in a professional environment, and they’re happy not to be shelling out a monthly fee to Adobe to achieve the desired results.

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53 minutes ago, Bit Dissapointed said:

Affinity is not for professionals.

There are many professionals that routinely use the Affinity apps for professional caliber work -- check out the sample files included with each of them for a few examples (like the remarkable AD sample-vintage-car-by-marc-keeley or the Spotlight article showcasing his other work) or browse through the Share Your Work forum. So please do not insult them or their work by claiming Affinity is not for professionals.

Affinity may not be the right choice for you, but it is for others, both professionals & amateurs, who value it for a variety of reasons, among them what has been termed the "killer feature" of a single unified native file format, something Adobe cannot offer. 

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As mentioned above, importing PDFs into Designer and Publisher perform separate behaviour - whereby Designer imports these as multiple Artboards - and this is by design, as Designer does not support the concept of 'pages'.

However I can confirm there is a requested improvement logged with our development team to allow for printing a user-specified 'Range' of Artboards in a future update.

I'll be sure to add your 'vote' to this feature now :)

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