Holod Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Greetings, it seems the RTL text support is missing for Hebrew and Arabic languages when using Text Tool The letters are in reverse order LTR, can this please be fixed ? pottering 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @Holod. This is a function that has never been supported in the Affinity applications in V1, and which V2 has not added. It would require a major development effort to include it, and Serif has not said when that might occur. It is not just something that can be "fixed", unfortunately. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holod Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @Holod. This is a function that has never been supported in the Affinity applications in V1, and which V2 has not added. It would require a major development effort to include it, and Serif has not said when that might occur. It is not just something that can be "fixed", unfortunately. have they considered a simple text reverse button ? my current workaround is to run the following code in browser DevTools console and get reversed text from that const text_reverse = (text) => [...text].reverse().join(""); Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 They want to do it properly, which means it affects all the text layout functions as well as the character composition functions. MikeTO 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemba Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 A little bit disappointed that V2 still doesn't support RTL. There's no reason to upgrade to V2 for me, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasOJO Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Oh, I just discovered that I actually can't use Persian text (that's why I'm here now). This is really very disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendol Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I just downloaded the trial to use Affinity...and two minutes in this is a road block. It seems I will have to stick with Adobe until it is fixed :/ DesignerUSA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elian Gonzalez Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 11/9/2022 at 1:52 PM, walt.farrell said: t would require a major development effort to include it, I have no doubt that it is not a question of merely adding in a couple lines of code or some quick update, but this description would seem to beggar belief: Pixelmator and ArtStudio Pro both support right-to-left text entry, not to mention Pages, Numbers, Keynote and even Word. The former two are not gigantic operations. If it's not Serif's priority, that's one thing, because they should just make it clear. But the notion that by itself, requiring "a major development effort" for an OS (either desktop or mobile) that has the support baked in can make one a bit skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 45 minutes ago, Elian Gonzalez said: But the notion that by itself, requiring "a major development effort" for an OS (either desktop or mobile) that has the support baked in can make one a bit skeptical. The adaptation of the text engine is equivalent to a new development. For a rather small company like Serif, every development step must be economically calculable. After all, it's not enough just to redevelop the text input. Linguistic differences must also be taken into account. All of this must be taken into account in a cost-benefit analysis. PaulEC 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, Elian Gonzalez said: If it's not Serif's priority, that's one thing, because they should just make it clear. It is a combination of difficulty (it's a large development effort) and priority (the item is perhaps not a big enough priority to justify the development effort). PaulEC 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloT Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Elian Gonzalez said: But the notion that by itself, requiring "a major development effort" for an OS (either desktop or mobile) that has the support baked in can make one a bit skeptical. At least Publisher, I doubt it uses the OS text engine. Not even Pages uses it on the Mac. At the same time, I doubt any OS includes the text engine of a page layout program. Paolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendol Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) I wonder if Serif will at least acknowledge and tell us if they will ever support or not. If not, then I can just stop checking in hopes that I can ditch Adobe.. Edited July 22, 2023 by Cendol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cendol said: I wonder if Serif will at least acknowledge and tell us if they will ever support or not. I can’t imagine Serif ever stating unequivocally that they will not support it. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberlizard Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I have a brilliant javascript for InDesign which flips text which is ideal for shorts burst of RTL text. Hopefully sometime soon we'll get scripting support and then I can hopefully modify it to work with Publisher. JoshB and walt.farrell 2 Quote Base Unit: Standard model M1 Mac Mini - until such time as I can afford a new or used Studio - albeit running its OS from an external NVMe (2TB). Laptop: 2015 Macbook Pro Retina - i7, 16GB, 2TB SSD Server: Mac Mini 2014 - i5, 16GB, 2TB SSD Workshop: HP G4 running as a Hackintosh until more funds can be found to upgrade it. Software: Affinity Suite (ver. 2), Office 365, Fusion360, OnShape, Carbide Create, Cura, Inkscape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 15 hours ago, walt.farrell said: It is a combination of difficulty (it's a large development effort) and priority (the item is perhaps not a big enough priority to justify the development effort). It is not only about development costs vs profit - getting potential buyers of the application, but also about the lack of development capacity. Then redirecting these development capacities means suspending/postponing other work, thus delaying the development of new features and bug fixes, which in turn causes dissatisfaction and churn of existing users to other applications. Serif is simply a small company with a small development team (increasing the number of developers or buying technology would of course increase the price of the applications, and thus the possible loss of many existing customers), so it cannot satisfy all customers immediately, but it must consider all the consequences when setting priorities. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron2Iron Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I too am very disappointed that RTL is not an option. I do love affinity, but now I will have to find another source to do a large portion of my work that was intended for Affinity. Again, I love Affinity so far, but I am really hoping that this becomes an option really soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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