Ghost frame in Publisher

[tomek_Q]

Has anybody experienced a non-existent, but visible frme, tied to a paricular page number in document, no matter how you manipulate with creating,changing, deleting, removing content etc? Here's a screenshot, with all my layers unchecked.

And a side question: what are those red embelishments for? They appear on some of my frames, but not all…

Tomek

[Twolane]

I too have had something similar. If I remember, I made a backup and deleted everything following, messed around with adding and deleting single/multiple pages, and pasted back in. That worked for me. It sounds like that didn't work for you.

[Pšenda]

47 minutes ago, tomek_Q said:

Here's a screenshot

Example document? 

[walt.farrell]

49 minutes ago, tomek_Q said:

Here's a screenshot, with all my layers unchecked.

Please include the complete application window, and the Layers panel.

50 minutes ago, tomek_Q said:

And a side question: what are those red embelishments for? They appear on some of my frames, but not all…

They indicate that:

1. You have View > Show Text Flow enabled, and 

2. The frame is not selected, and 

3. The frame contains overflowing text 

 

[tomek_Q]

10 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

1. You have View > Show Text Flow enabled, and 

2. The frame is not selected, and 

3. The frame contains overflowing text 

 

Thanks Walt!

I will try to cope with my main problem now;-)

[tomek_Q]

Now, when I deseleced View>Show Text Flow, the stubborn frame finally disappeared;-)

Thanks again Walt!

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, tomek_Q said:

Now, when I deseleced View>Show Text Flow, the stubborn frame finally disappeared;-)

Thanks again Walt!

You're welcome. But just because it disappeared, doesn't mean it's gone. It's still there, and should be visible in your Layers panel. And it contains text. 

So I'm afraid you probably haven't really solved anything.

[Dan C]

Are you able to provide a copy of the document where this frame appears @tomek_Q? This would allow us to further investigate and understand the issue occurring here

[tomek_Q]

4 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

So I'm afraid you probably haven't really solved anything.

Well, I have;-) After learnig from you what the red dots mean I switched "Show Text Flow" on again, and Inspected all the frames in my document that had them. I found that most typical situation was, when all my frame content was properly inside the frame, but the frame was too tight to accomodate some invisible characters. After enlarging the height of the frame a fraction, the alarm dotds were gone forever. I cleaned all near pages near the fatal frame, and when I revisited it's page. There no sign of it, despite "Show Text Flow" was on!

[tomek_Q]

4 hours ago, Dan C said:

Are you able to provide a copy of the document where this frame appears @tomek_Q? This would allow us to further investigate and understand the issue occurring here

Thanks a lot, Dan for your interest. It was @walt.farrell who explained to me the meaning of the red embelishments, and I was able to solve the problem myself. But I am still unhappy with anchors. My first try at generating TOC produced tons of them in most stupid places, and only way to clean the job is to remove them one byone ftrom the text frames. Any  attempt to do it from the Anchors panels fails…

[Old Bruce]

How is this for my stab in the dark:

A text frame from an applied Master/Parent page that has since been deleted from the document.

[Dan C]

2 minutes ago, tomek_Q said:

But I am still unhappy with anchors. My first try at generating TOC produced tons of them in most stupid places, and only way to clean the job is to remove them one byone ftrom the text frames

Have you tried my suggestion in the below thread?

[tomek_Q]

I did not put anything of this size and posisition on my masters. As I wrote to @walt.farrell my guess is that a formerly linked text was now fully accomodated in one frame, but there was som invisible lefttover in the ghost frame. After enlarging a fraction one of the frames which had also red dots the ghost frame disappeared I hope for ever…

[Old Bruce]

Just now, tomek_Q said:

the ghost frame disappeared I hope for ever…

It is still there. Many people would bet serious money that the ghost frame is still there.

[tomek_Q]

Just now, Old Bruce said:

Many people would bet serious money

Fortunately I don't have serious money. But I will let you know if (and when) it reappears;-)

[Dan C]

I've previously seen redraw issues in Publisher, whereby it's possible to see the bounding boxes for objects on an incorrect page (for example, the bounding box of a text frame on page one, appearing on page 2) - so it may be possible this was the issue affecting tomek_Q but we would all be assuming without replicating the issue locally.

I certainly hope this issue doesn't return, but you know where to find us if it does 

[tomek_Q]

 

1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

It is still there. Many people would bet serious money that the ghost frame is still there.

Well, you would win. And @Dan C would win. And @walt.farrell would win. Only @tomek_Q would loose. It's still there

[tomek_Q]

Thanks for the movie, @anto . In my case, there was one image with wrap set, but after recomposing it did not change anything. Still searching;-)

[tomek_Q]

2 hours ago, Dan C said:

you know where to find us if it does 

My file also wans to find you, its to big for email;-)

[Pšenda]

13 hours ago, tomek_Q said:

My file also wans to find you, its to big for email

What to try to make a copy of, delete unnecessary pages from it, and then send / provide a "small" remainder?

[thomaso]

14 hours ago, tomek_Q said:

Still searching;-)

Though the ghost frames don't look identically you did not exclude yet a page selection redraw issue as mentioned by @Dan C.

I can produce ghost frames "reliable" if I select objects on a different page than the recently used page without literally activating the new page before. Recipe:
1. Select a page either in the pages panel (gray border) or select an object on a page to make it the active ("current") page.
2. Then click-drag a selection area on another page without selecting the page before (= no mouse button down + up).
This clip shows ghost frames on the lower page and its empty Layers Panel:

[Dan C]

15 hours ago, tomek_Q said:

My file also wans to find you, its to big for email;-)

You can upload this to the below link, please reply here to let me know once this has been done

https://www.dropbox.com/request/4zxokxO8LvFwGBHILJY2

38 minutes ago, thomaso said:

I can produce ghost frames "reliable" if I select objects on a different page than the recently used page without literally activating the new page before. Recipe:

Many thanks for this thomaso, the issue is already logged with our developers, however this is a much easier recipe than we have so I will update the log now!