affinity publisher Recycling poem

[William Overington]

 

 

William

 

[William Overington]

This poem first appeared in the following publication.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/localizable_sentences_the_second_novel_chapter_024.pdf

In that publication the poem is typeset in the Goudita SF font, the program used was Serif PagePlus X7.

The presentation in the previous post, produced today, uses a direct copy of the poem from the PagePlus .ppp source file.

The text was then pasted into an A4 size document in Affinity Publisher and then the text converted to use the EB Garamond italic font at 18 point, with the use all ligatures option set in Affinity Publisher.

William

 

[William Overington]

There is a discussion about the poem in a thread, starting at the following post.

https://community.serif.com/discussion/113998/localizable-sentences-the-second-novel?page=47#reply384679

William

 

[John Rostron]

Is there any reason why you chose this font? For me (and I suspect many others) the fancy bit St serve to reduce readability.

John

[Alfred]

11 minutes ago, John Rostron said:

Is there any reason why you chose this font?

The basic font is quite elegant, and I don’t have a problem with the ch, ck, ct, sk, and st ligatures, but for me the -s ligatures are a bit jarring, and the final form of the ‘e’ interrupts the flow when it isn’t at the end of a line.

[William Overington]

1 hour ago, John Rostron said:

Is there any reason why you chose this font? For me (and I suspect many others) the fancy bit St serve to reduce readability.

John

Some time ago I looked through Google fonts - I was looking for a Venetian-style font, but did not find one - but I did find EB Garamond.

I previously used it on a design for a grretimgs card, which I have at home, framed.

I like the font, so I tried it with this poem and I thought it looked good.

William

 

 

[William Overington]

1 hour ago, Alfred said:

The basic font is quite elegant, and I don’t have a problem with the ch, ck, ct, sk, and st ligatures, but for me the -s ligatures are a bit jarring, and the final form of the ‘e’ interrupts the flow when it isn’t at the end of a line.

Here is a version without the -s ligatures, there were quite a lot of them. The way to remove them is to make the vowel before the 's' to have no ligatures by using the Text Ligatures features of Affinity Publisher. Interestingly I go an ss ligature when I removed the es ligature from the word 'processing' and in some cases an st ligature became added.

I have, alas, not been able to remove the swash 'e' that occurs at the end of each word at this time.

 

 

 

William

 

[William Overington]

38 minutes ago, William Overington said:

I have, alas, not been able to remove the swash 'e' that occurs at the end of each word at this time.

But I have now., though I have left them at the end of lines.

 

 

William

 

[William Overington]

15 minutes ago, William Overington said:

But I have now., though I have left them at the end of lines.

I found a way to do it. Would you like to try to work it out before I say?

I did not alter the font.

William

 

[William Overington]

The combined application of a beautiful font and the wonderfully featured Affinity Publisher.

 

 

William

 

[Alfred]

11 minutes ago, William Overington said:

I found a way to do it. Would you like to try to work it out before I say?

OpenType features such as final forms can be specified at the character level, so it’s fairly straightforward. Instead of applying them globally and hunting through the text to switch them off where you don’t want them, you can apply them only where you do want them.

[walt.farrell]

18 minutes ago, William Overington said:

I found a way to do it. Would you like to try to work it out before I say?

There are several possibilities, but not having the font it's difficult to say for sure (a) which would work with that particular font and (b) which you might have done.

[Alfred]

4 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

not having the font it's difficult to say for sure

It’s released under the SIL OFL, Walt, so what’s your excuse? 

 

[William Overington]

I used a hexadecimal 200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE after each 'e' that ended a non-end-of-line word. Each such word then became flagged as a spelling error, so the 'e' at the end of the word was regarded as being in a word. First I had to find, using the FontCreator program, that the font did actually include a ZERO WIDTH SPACE character.

Getting the hexadecimal 200B character onto the clip board was a bit of a problem.

I resolved it by going into FontCreator, selecting that character, and using the preview facility then copying from the text box.

William

 

 

[walt.farrell]

8 minutes ago, Alfred said:

It’s released under the SIL OFL, Walt, so what’s your excuse?

Not knowing where to find it, basically.

[walt.farrell]

5 minutes ago, William Overington said:

I used a hexadecimal 200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE after each 'e' that ended a non-end-of-line word. Each such word then became flagged as a spelling error, so the 'e' at the end of the word was regarded as being in a word.

Yes, that's one of the possibilities. Another might be to put it before the e.

Regarding spelling errors: Spelling can be turned off in a character text style.

6 minutes ago, William Overington said:

First I had to find, using the FontCreator program, that the font did actually include a ZERO WIDTH SPACE character.

You could have used it from some other font, too.

7 minutes ago, William Overington said:

Getting the hexadecimal 200B character onto the clip board was a bit of a problem.

• Text > Insert > Spaces and Tabs > Zero-Width Space, or
• Use the Glyph Browser (which is tricky because, though you can search for the character, you can't see spaces in the panel). Or
• Type U+200B then press Alt+U.

[William Overington]

6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Not knowing where to find it, basically.

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/EB+Garamond?query=EB+Garamond

William

 

[William Overington]

24 minutes ago, Alfred said:

OpenType features such as final forms can be specified at the character level, so it’s fairly straightforward. Instead of applying them globally and hunting through the text to switch them off where you don’t want them, you can apply them only where you do want them.

How exactly please? I can't find it.

William

 

[Alfred]

6 minutes ago, William Overington said:

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/EB+Garamond?query=EB+Garamond

Alternatively:

https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/eb-garamond

[Alfred]

5 minutes ago, William Overington said:

How exactly please?

If you select the text frame, any OpenType features that you enable will be applied to all the text in the frame. If you highlight a run of text, enabling a feature will only apply to the selected text.

[walt.farrell]

16 minutes ago, William Overington said:

How exactly please? I can't find it.

In the Character Panel, in the Typography section, you can click on the ... icon to view the Typography panel. Changes made there will apply to selected text (or the entire frame, as Alfred mentioned).

You can also reach that panel by clicking on the Typography icon (fi) on the Context Toolbar with a text tool selected. Note that it may be off the end of the toolbar, requiring you to use the chevron icon to get the dropdown.

[William Overington]

21 minutes ago, Alfred said:

If you select the text frame, any OpenType features that you enable will be applied to all the text in the frame. If you highlight a run of text, enabling a feature will only apply to the selected text.

 

10 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

In the Character Panel, in the Typography section, you can click on the ... icon to view the Typography panel. Changes made there will apply to selected text (or the entire frame, as Alfred mentioned).

You can also reach that panel by clicking on the Typography icon (fi) on the Context Toolbar with a text tool selected. Note that it may be off the end of the toolbar, requiring you to use the chevron icon to get the dropdown.

I can't find anything about final forms.

William

 

[William Overington]

Looking through the font using the FontCreator program, I found that not only does the font support the long s character, it also includes fifteen long s ligatures. Five of them are used in this poem.

 

 

William

 

[Ali]

I don't know why the use of the long 's' makes me want to read the entire poem with a lisp ... 😏

I don't understand what "eye rhyming coming" means. Did you mean "aye, rhyming coming"?

It's a good start, William, but quite a few of the lines don't scan and are clumsy, so I think it needs a bit more work.

7/10. 😊

[William Overington]

10 minutes ago, Ali said:

I don't understand what "eye rhyming coming" means. Did you mean "aye, rhyming coming"?

I hope that the following will explain and also be of interest.

A song that features an eye rhyme

Incidentally reading through those song lyrics I noticed that it is structurally very similar to the structure of the following song which I first learned about a few days ago, quite by chance, it popped up in a sequence of videos, namely in having verses each of six lines with lines three and four being repeated as lines five and six.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVJDKlhM78U

I found the lyrics in German on the web and then got a translation from Google Translate.

I then watched the video again and noted how the images have been chosen to match the lyrics in some places.

 

37 minutes ago, Ali said:

It's a good start, William, but quite a few of the lines don't scan and are clumsy, so I think it needs a bit more work.

7/10. 😊

Thank you.

William