ZufDraw Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I am a sketch artist and need a good brush for drawing. I use AF because I make complex drawings with 50-100 layers. I noticed these issues when drawing on my Cintiq 24HD: lines are often not smooth. Look at the straight parts in this line: (Stabiliser is no option for me btw. I cannot draw with the lag and unnatural feeling ) Pressure sensitivity is often uneven: lastly, and this is not a brush but rendering issue, at certain zoom levels the aliasing is off (tried all view settings, all the same): I love AF and it has replaced PS for me which says a lot as I have been using PS professionally for 20 years. But if I can get the brush strokes and rendering right it will be perfect. PS I have no issues in other programs like PS, sketchbook. Sharp_Brothers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Which application you use? ADesigner or APhoto? It is vector drawing, or raster? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hi sorry i forgot to mention this is photo and raster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Have you tried playing around with enabling (or disabling) Windows Ink in your Windows system settings, Wacom settings, and Affinity Preferences? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 Thanks for your suggestion, I have played around with all Wacom settings and all affinity settings afaik (not ink, I'm on OSX). in detail: Wacom pressure sensitity makes no difference Played with AF view quality, bilinear works best, and Display - open gl works better than Metal in my case Played a lot with AF brush settings (now I use 90% size pressure, 57% accumulation and 100% hardness) When I use my settings in any other program like PS or Sketchbook, the lines are fine so my assumption is it is not related to my system settings since it is isolated to affinity photo. If I draw my lines at a certain speed, it is less noticeable but of course I would prefer not to adjust my drawing. I have seen similar issues with other users in older posts so it somehow seems and old issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Callum Posted May 26, 2020 Staff Share Posted May 26, 2020 Hi ZuffDraw, Out of interest do the issues you have listed go away if you increase the size of the brush you are working with? Thanks C Quote Please tag me using @ in your reply so I can be sure to respond ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 Hi, thanks for your reply. The brush size has no effect. It mainly happens in certain swift strokes with angles as in the example above. The uneven pressure seems related to the hardness setting that is not smooth at certain settings. Look at this movie. You can see the same effect in the preview. https://www.dropbox.com/s/y2rfv1jkdpmkgit/pressure not smooth.mov?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 This week I purchased the iPad versions expecting better pen behavior on iOS.Im sorry to say it is even worse, unusable actually on my iPad Pro . Jagged lines and stabilizer is so slow it’s of no use to me. I know how good sketching can be after using notepad and pro create but affinity photo or design are nowhere near those two. The issues are similar to the desktop version so imo affinity should really reconsider the drawing engine. It seems there is some fundamental refinements that need to be made. Also the interface is confusing. I get pressure control without force pressure enabled and I’m not sure what the difference is with. Also the preview of the line does not reflect anything other than thickness variation. Opacity, hardness. It doesn’t seem to work correctly or at all. Disappointing unfortunately Jowday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, ZufDraw said: This week I purchased the iPad versions expecting better pen behavior on iOS. Are you using the appropriate model Apple Pencil with iPad Pro? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 It’s the Pencil from Apple and it works perfect in other applications Jowday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Im sorry to say this is still an issue in Affinity photo (1.8.4). I'm not sure where to turn with this. This is the support forum right? I there an AF employ to talk me through either a solution or, at least, a confirmation of this issue (and whether it's my setting or general) The line issues only occurs on standard round brushes. Not on brushes with a brush nozzle image. There are three main issues. Lines end with 'arrow' shapes, jagged curves on fast lines and inconsistent hardness between thick and thin lines'. To reproduce: Create a simple round brush. Size 10, Accumulation 100, hardness 10, spacing 0, Flow 100, shape 100, rotation 0. Blend normal no wet edges. Size jitter 80% set to pressure with straight curve. Now the lines look like my image in my first post with the arrowheads. Also, the hardness does not translate to the thinner lines. The thinner the line, the harder it gets which should not be the case. Even the preview shows that this is going to be the case: in isolation it might be hard to identify the issues but look at these two sketches. First AF, second Photoshop. All the lines have these mild arrow shapes at the ends. End the hardness is inconsistent between the thick and thin lines. Notice the 4th line from the top on the left side. That does not look right does it? this is photoshop: lepr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 In addition to above quick lines are still very much jagged. Especially when drawing zoomed out. This is with pen stroke 15pt and 20% zoomed out written. It looks like this: lepr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanW Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 SAME. I bought a cintiq 24hd last year- and it never felt 'right'. The lines were jagged and crummy, I thought it was me. Then I was using my OLD tablet and the lines were GREAT. Apparently windows ink talks with the new model in a way that has been producing these awful lines. I've turned off Windows Ink to the degrees I can (before the pen stops working completely, since apparently the two need to work together?), and I've researched this ad nauseum, with nothing to show for it. It sure SOUNDS like this is a Photoshop/Windows issue? It also sounds like no one plans to ever get rid of that horrible, horrible windows ink- or otherwise fix this. Anyone got any leads??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZufDraw Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 I'v seen the link to windows link before. However I have this issue in OSX and always have (the mac version of) Ink turned off. And it also occurs on the iPad. In small files it's fine, but when the resolution is larger and draw in low zoom levels (20%) the lines become jagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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