Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Hey, I have a lot project with selective color adjustment live filters. If I open such a file the picture looks now different than on 1.6. Looks like that the filter’s are now differently interprated. Just want to say, that this is really a now go. I have to adjust now hundreds of affinity photo projects... Not really cool and very unprofessional. Quote
fde101 Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 This was happening in the beta and the Serif team had indicated they would fix this before the release... looks like they missed this one on their to-do list... Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 *sigh* worst 1.7 is the worst update ever. selective color adjustment live filters broken The free Google NIK Tools are broken (font loading issue) Nik Tools 2 broken (HDR tool) To bad I can’t go back to 1.6, because of App Store Quote
fde101 Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hanterdro said: To bad I can’t go back to 1.6, because of App Store If you happen to have a time machine backup you might be able to pull the old version back from that. The plugin issues are due to the fact that Serif has updated to a newer version of Apple's development tools. Something about the way the new tools builds applications is causing an incompatibility with plugins that do not meet certain requirements. Best guess is that this will impact other host applications eventually as well, as their teams update to the newer tools. Agree that the issue with the selective color adjustment never should have been allowed to happen. Quote
Staff Justin Posted June 6, 2019 Staff Posted June 6, 2019 Hi Hanterdro What you are seeing is not expected. The selective colour adjustment has been rewritten but adjustments created in previous versions should be preserved. They should be labelled as "Legacy Selective Colour Adjustment" in the layers panel. Do your adjustments have this label? Note that if you edit a legacy adjustment it will be updated to the new version and a toast will appear saying this has happened. This is all working as expected on my machine. Are there any other adjustments in your document that might be at fault? Regards Justin Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 @fde101 You saved my life, thank you. I had a timemachine backup and did a downgrade, and everything is working again as it should! @Justin Yeah, there was that label, but it’s broken as soon as I open the file with 1.7. Maybe because I use always an opactiy map for these adjustments? Quote
Staff Chris B Posted June 6, 2019 Staff Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Hanterdro said: *sigh* worst 1.7 is the worst update ever. The free Google NIK Tools are broken (font loading issue) Nik Tools 2 broken (HDR tool) We officially only support Analog Efex Pro 2 and Color Efex Pro 4. We will have to contact the plugin developers to see how they plan on handling the new ICC profile that we deliver and hopefully reach a solution. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff MEB Posted June 6, 2019 Staff Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Hanterdro said: @Justin Yeah, there was that label, but it’s broken as soon as I open the file with 1.7. Maybe because I use always an opactiy map for these adjustments? Hi Hanterdro, Was that file created in Affinity Photo 1.7 Beta originally? If you nudge the sliders (actually just click over one of them should suffice) does it fix the adjustment for you? Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MEB said: Hi Hanterdro, Was that file created in Affinity Photo 1.7 Beta originally? If you nudge the sliders (actually just click over one of them should suffice) does it fix the adjustment for you? Hey MEBm I created all the broken files in 1.6.7. If I change the sliders in the filter I can try to get manually close to the original settings (which is of course no solution). But if I do that I get a banner (see attachment). I sent an e-mail with an example aphoto file and a detailed description to affinity@serif.com That's probably the easiest way to reproduce that issue. I could reproduce this issue on two different Macs. Edited June 6, 2019 by Hanterdro Quote
fde101 Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Have you tried disabling Metal acceleration in preferences? Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, fde101 said: Have you tried disabling Metal acceleration in preferences? Nice, disabling Metal fix the broken colors, when I open the file with 1.7 initially. But as soon I edit the filter (even if I click on the same position), the colors are broken/offset in the same way. I would expect that the filter sliders are converted in a way that they match their previous settings, if I want to adjust them. Quote
fde101 Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hanterdro said: But as soon I edit the filter (even if I click on the same position), the colors are broken/offset in the same way. Interesting. They changed the algorithm being used, not just the way the values are being mapped, so trying to make the old values match the new algorithm might not be feasible. Given that the old algorithm obviously needs to be there for this to work at all, I would argue they should simply continue using the old algorithm until we click an "update to new algorithm" button or recreate the adjustment layer or some such. That's not what they did though, and as soon as you touch the slider it switches to the new algorithm, which I agree is not a particularly nice behavior. From what you are describing it sounds like there is a metal bug that is causing the new algorithm to be used for acceleration even though the filter is supposedly using the "legacy" mode. They probably need to put in a fix to prevent use of metal computation for these "legacy" adjustments. Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) @fde101 Yeah, what your are saying makes sense. I recognized that in 1.6.7 my settings was OpenGL... but if I change in 1.6.7 display to Metal, it's still fine. So Metal seems only broken in 1.7. Edited June 6, 2019 by Hanterdro Quote
Staff MEB Posted June 6, 2019 Staff Posted June 6, 2019 Hi Hanterdro, This is a bug. The old file opened in Affinity 1.7 should display the same colours as in v1.6. Do you mind uploading your file using this link for us to take a look please. Thank you. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
Hanterdro Posted June 6, 2019 Author Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) @meb Ok, I uploaded the same files I send a few hours to affinity@serif.com, on your dropbox link. Edit: "You have reached the maximum number of posts you can make per day." WTF? Edited June 6, 2019 by Hanterdro Quote
Staff MEB Posted June 6, 2019 Staff Posted June 6, 2019 Hi Hanterdro, Thanks, I will take a look at the files. Regarding the number of posts issue - I believe this is just a temporary limitation for new users. Wait a little bit and @Patrick Connor should take care of this/confirm if that's indeed the case. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
Staff Justin Posted June 7, 2019 Staff Posted June 7, 2019 Hi Hanterdro I believe this has now been fixed. Thanks for your help. Justin MEB 1 Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Justin said: Hi Hanterdro I believe this has now been fixed. Thanks for your help. Justin This is fixed, as soon there’s a new version with a fix Quote
Staff Andy Somerfield Posted June 9, 2019 Staff Posted June 9, 2019 Hi, Thanks - we have got this fixed and will release a build to beta early this coming week. The build will be made public on or before the 19th June. Hope this helps and sorry for the inconvenience! Andy. Patrick Connor 1 Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 18, 2019 Author Posted June 18, 2019 Still broken with 1.7.1 What is fixed: * Initially the colors are fine What is broken: * As soon you move the slider, the colors are off again (e.g. click on the same position) Quote
hanshab Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Please look also at my input given here. I have not received any response about this but it is a real problem for me. Selective color adjustment does not work win LAB color space Please see and give me some input sas to when this will be fixed. Thanks a lot here is my input: Quote
fde101 Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 8:17 AM, Hanterdro said: As soon you move the slider, the colors are off again (e.g. click on the same position) Again, the filter is switching to the new algorithm as soon as you try to change something, so the positions no longer match up. This is how they described it as behaving, however, so it is not a bug, just a bad design. Quote
Hanterdro Posted June 19, 2019 Author Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, fde101 said: Again, the filter is switching to the new algorithm as soon as you try to change something, so the positions no longer match up. This is how they described it as behaving, however, so it is not a bug, just a bad design. I honestly find that unacceptable. It can't be that once an old file is only slightly modified, the colors are completely broken. From the user's point of view this is a bug and should be fixed. I will stay at 1.6.7 until this is fixed. Is Adobe more reliable than Affinity when it comes to file/version compatibility? I've never tried Photo Shop, but if Affinity can't do it, I'm seriously thinking about making a long-term switch. Quote
fde101 Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, Hanterdro said: It can't be that once an old file is only slightly modified, the colors are completely broken. One possible work-around in the meantime would be to flatten the layers to bake in the existing adjustment, then add a new one. Quote
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