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Hi,

Just purchased a Bohemian Sketch license, because they offer full webp export support, multiple sizes and extensions and have a plugin structure that is widely used! It's pathetic that people on this forum have been asking for this and are turned away every time they do. Affinity could have great potential if they looked around and see what was really going on in the design world.

All you get now is a kind of interpretation of Photoshop and Illustrator (with an outdated idea), but nothing new and  revolutionary like Sketch or many other applications that are there now too. It's a pity, because I was the one in our team advocating the use of Affinity Photo and Designer and everybody was skeptical about my choice. 

Regards,

David

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Enjoy your License and make good use of the product. Since I work on Windows, I don't have the opportunity to test Sketch, but maybe one day.

Best regards!

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It is true that Sketch has quite a few features the Affinity apps lack, but it also lacks many of the features found in the Affinity ones. The most obvious one is probably that there is no Windows or iOS version but there are others, for example its relatively weak color management capabilities. Sketch also has a somewhat different licensing model that together with its initial purchase price might make it less attractive to some users than buying one or both Affinity apps. Regardless, from what I can tell from the trial version, the feature set seems impressive enough, particularly for certain kinds of prototyping work.

However, overall the UI seems much clumsier & 'old school' than the Affinity one, & at least on my old iMac it tends to bog down on some things Affinity does not. It also seems to lack certain features like customizable keyboard shortcuts, a History panel, floating panels or customizable panel groups, zooming in by anything other than fixed steps (& a much lower maximum zoom level), little in the way of parametric shape adjustments, relatively few typography controls, & a bunch of other things that Affinity offers, but maybe I just haven't figured out how to access them yet, or they are available as features in some of the (quite extensive) plugins for the app.

So at least for me, each app is 'pathetic' in some ways & stelar in others.

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Posted

Thanks for your replies!

No a lot is changed in Sketch All the things RC-R is saying are fixed or you can use a plugin for it.

It's not that I'm never going to use Afinity anymore, but want to give Sketch an other try. Extended the license I already had and did some multi sizes, multi extensions (including webp) exports in seconds that take me an hour in Affinity Photo or are impossible (because of the lack of a modern extension like webp). 

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The licensing/subcription model of Sketch looks like an interesting one. As long as you subscribe you will receive updates but the software won't stop working if you decide to not extend your subscription. Means recurring revenue for Sketch but also takes away the biggest objection of many.

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10 minutes ago, All Media Lab said:

No a lot is changed in Sketch All the things RC-R is saying are fixed or you can use a plugin for it.

Everything I said about Sketch is based on my limited time use of the trial version, which I assume is the same as the purchased version (except for the 30 day limitation, of course).

I have not tried adding any of the plugins but when I browsed through them, I did not see anything for CMYK color support, custom or floating panel layouts, zooming to arbitrary (non-stepped) zooms levels, or quite a few other features already built into Affinity Designer 1.6.x (or the 1.7 customer beta). That doesn't mean none are available, only that I could not find them using the keyword search feature on the Plugin page.

But more importantly to me, I find the UI to be very clunky & poorly thought out compared to the Affinity approach. It is a lot like Apple's Pages & similar apps that are based on old school  'inspector' style panels, a plethora of commonly used options implemented as popups I have to open again every blessed time I want to access them, the absence of a 'real' Tool panel, & several other UI elements that almost seem intentionally designed to make fast & efficient workflows as difficult as possible. It also does not help that (at least on my iMac) it sometimes becomes unresponsive for up to a few seconds at a time for no reason I can see.

Don't get me wrong -- for some types of prototyping work it beats Affinity Designer by a mile, but as a general purpose vector creation app for me it leaves a lot to be desired.

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Posted

Hi RC-R,

No there is no CMYK support only sRGB and p3, because Sketch is made for application and webdesign (exactly what I do) . And about how it looks? Fantastic! They redesigned the whole app: Sketch website Think you had a old copy of Sketch that looked indeed horrible. I don't say that Affinity is all rubbish because I think it's excellent, but is missing important features for webdesign.

I need to make a image with different art directions and export it in different sizes and image extensions at the same time (and save the setup as a preset) like *webp and jpg, that is used by *Edge, *Chrome, *Firefox, *Opera and more. There are not even plans for implementation of webp! I had to argue about it with Affinity developers and Sketch has it already built in. 

I find Designer and Photo very conservative in it's development and more looking (technically) like my Adobe CS 6 Illustrator and Photoshop. Still I'm going to use them all, but I really need Sketch as well. 

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48 minutes ago, All Media Lab said:

They redesigned the whole app: Sketch website Think you had a old copy of Sketch that looked indeed horrible.

The trial I downloaded looks like the UI I see on the website ... & there is this:

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It may look fantastic to you but as I said, to me it looks outdated, relying on the same tired old 'Inspector' UI style that has been used in Apple's Mac apps for at least a decade. I know some people like that. I am just not one of them.

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Posted
14 hours ago, RNKLN said:

As long as you subscribe you will receive updates but the software won't stop working if you decide to not extend your subscription

Major updates seem to be monthly as latest version is... 55? Poor old Affinity is 1.6!!! Sketch is being developed 34 times faster!!

Well, for web/app development Sketch see to have some really good features. Not my piece of cake anymore though.

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