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Just now, j_sandb said:

 

Actually used it recently, it‘s still used in Switzerland and Germany. :)

Thanks.

A good opportunity to exercise your Wikipedia editing skills, I guess :)


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14 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Not sure if you're being serious

Well: 1 cc = 12 dd = 4,513 mm but: 1 DTP Cicero = 1 DTP Pica    (DTP = PS)

So only if you need to use the Didot system (working with some old typography) you (perhaps) need Cicero.

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"Fiddly" is not good. Causes achy fingers and eventual deposit of your software into the dust bin. Need snap to for every ruler mark.

A bit of history: in the early days of desktop publishing, PageMaker succeeded over several competitors because they figured out how to make on-screen layout not fiddly.

Also, ruler gradations should change with the degree of zoom. At high magnification a proper ruler has a long gradation mark at midpoint (6pt) and medium mark at the quarters (3pt and 9pt). At lower magnification the minor gradations are every 2pts with a longer mark at 6pt. Please don't make us go blind reading rulers.

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1 hour ago, tjpanda said:

... a proper ruler has a long gradation mark at midpoint (6pt) and medium mark at the quarters (3pt and 9pt). At lower magnification the minor gradations are every 2pts with a longer mark at 6pt. Please don't make us go blind reading rulers.

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Actually, one of the most important changes to the rulers would be if they would look more like the top image in all views.  They currently (beta) show long gradation marks in 2-pica increments with lots of tiny same-size gradation marks in between.  This means many zooms to 400% to place guides where they need to be, especially for books with many images.  Still,  WE HAVE PICAS, which is absolutely wonderful!!! 


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12 minutes ago, KipV said:

It seemed like there were still some issues with picas that were being ironed out? That is the only reason I can think of.

Remaining issues may well exist, so they would go in the bugs forums now it's meant to be supported


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