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I might not have worded that as well as I meant to. AP and AD can do quite a lot and I use them both for pro work. They even do a number of things better then the Adobe Counterparts. However with Publisher I mostly see Serif desperately trying to play catch up competition that has been working in this field for over thirty years. Layout tools are at a stage where they are more about fine tuning the existing product rather then introducing lots of flashy new features. The fact it is they are behind on features in a mature field and that justifies Publisher being a lower price then it's competition. The other two Affinity products can justify a higher price point today with all the major advancements they have made since version 1.0. In fact I would welcome that so they could build up their staff and marketing.

It's hard to tell how much influence my posts have. I made suggestions in the past that got implemented and sometimes they get brushed off. Like I said earlier today I applaud Serif for getting iPad versions out (and far ahead of when Adobe is supposedly scheduled to release their competitors) but I think they should have at least put out a minor feature update beta to AP/AD by this point.

The reason I am here is I feel that Designer had the potential to crush Illustrator but we haven't seen a feature update to that program on Mac or Windows in over a year. Instead they are putting the time into developing features that competitors are already doing well.

That is the other thing, it has been taking Serif so long to come out with this program. By the time 1.0 hits Quark and ID will already be half to their next major update.

Also I should point out that ID has adding some features that have been long standing Quark advantages until this year. By adding end notes the competition between these two market leaders becomes extra hard for Affinity compete against. I don't know how much Affinity's tight integration will matter to some people if that is a feature that Adobe already has.

Is integration enough reason to justify making a whole new app? Also Publisher is a tool that won't be important on touch since pen input isn't as critical as it is on a drawing/retouching tool.

It is a bit frustrating that Photo and Designer haven't received new features on Mac/Windows in the last year while working on a layout tool that in many ways is just trying to get caught up to the 2000s. I know they put out iPad versions which should be applauded but I am not an iPad user at the moment (and probably won't be one for a while.) For a company that has a lot of ground to cover a year of stagnation (not including the bug fixes) is a very unfortunate set back.

Which is surprisingly a feature the current ID doesn't have (and Publisher as well I'm sure.)

No the price is $400 for anyone who uses a wide range of competing products (just about anyone who works in the field.) But the real cost will be when a client asks you to do a function that Affinity isn't capable of. It's cheaper for a reason.

Here are a couple of discoveries that pleasantly surprised me about Quark 2018. I wasn't recently mentioning this to my typography instructor who has only used old versions of Quark. The page cloning feature is an amazing advancement over ID. Here is also the screen shot of the vertical bar and the OpenType typography tools. All of this is major advances over ID but I am not aware of anything other then tighter integration that Affinity can do. The main thing Quark should focus on is making third party plug-ins and they will be a good competitor to ID. Who knows how long it will take Affinity to do this.

I could ask or a lot more. I have been very happy with Quark 2018 innovations like the vertical measurements bar and the OpenType special characters panel and the larger interface for Retina Displays. The previews I have seem from Affinity are just doing things that other programs did decades ago for the most part. The important thing for Affinity to do is to bring basic layout functionality for Designer and Photo which are both fairly poor for doing simple one or two page layouts (this topic has been brought up in a previous forum if anyone wants to detail on it. Designer has important in that it replaced a lot of what a week competitor could do (Illustrator) but Publisher has several strong competitors.

No you I didn't!

@MEB Oh good, I hope that has been fixed. One of my machines is still on Sierra was it also fixed on Sierra?

Can you go into detail by what you mean when you say: "Fixed “Edit In..” Photos integration"? I have had a lot of problems getting changes in AP to get saved back to Photos, is that what this fixed?

I just found out how to do clippings straight from within Quark: Quark FB group discussion about clipping Doing it this way might make the most sense since I would only have to use two apps in this workflow instead of three. I can do the basic editing in LR export, and clip in Quark rather then LR edit, Photoshop clipping path, and then import into Quark.