Piotr Krochmal Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hi, I'm during looking for new monitor (precisely TV as Monitor) So I have been preparing some trick pictures to check FRC etc. I want to have UHD files as there is any of those I started to make it by my self. As I'm lazy I've tried not to do any pixel by my self. So I took this file: http://monitory.mastiff.pl/images/mva/frc2.gif It is simple GIF file. Opened it in Affinity and tried to copy to new UHD file to full fill it by copying. What I suppose to see is 1:1 copy of file but instead I got some processed crap: So my question is Why affinity is not pasting file properlly? What happened and how to avoid it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted August 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hi @Piotr Krochmal , Welcome to the forums. I'm not really sure which of your photo is the correct example and which is the wrong one. All i get is this: I've tried different programs, and that's the only result I came up with. When you say you copied it, where did you copied it from? Thanks, Gabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted August 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hi Piotr Krochmal, Welcome to Affinity Forums Select the pasted layer/image (make sure you have the Move Tool selected) and check the X, Y coordinates in the Transform panel. Delete the decimal parts to ensure the image is on integer values. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Krochmal Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, MEB said: Hi Piotr Krochmal, Welcome to Affinity Forums Select the pasted layer/image (make sure you have the Move Tool selected) and check the X, Y coordinates in the Transform panel. Delete the decimal parts to ensure the image is on integer values. Still not worked, But when I checked file size and then manually correct size of layer it worked. So could you be so kind and check who "invented" automatic scaling? And how to turn it out? Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted August 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted August 2, 2018 Pasting the image shouldn't have changed the pixel size. No sure what you have done there. Can you still replicate this on a new document and describe the steps you have taken? It's possible i'm missing something. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Krochmal Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 21 hours ago, MEB said: Pasting the image shouldn't have changed the pixel size. No sure what you have done there. Can you still replicate this on a new document and describe the steps you have taken? It's possible i'm missing something. Yes I know it shouldn't but it did So as you ask I redo: 1. make new file -> QFHD page preset 2. import frc2.gif as a layer by dropping it on new file. 3. Layer size 960x768 pix. - file size 1280x1024 so still it isn't put properly, I give file as attachement also link to file so you could check it personally. Thanks for help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted August 3, 2018 Staff Share Posted August 3, 2018 Thanks for the steps Piotr Krochmal. I'm not getting the same result as you following these steps but i'm checking this on a Mac currently (will have to check on Windows later). Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Piotr Krochmal Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Thanks for help! Dev's please turn off DPI related scaling. When I put file as a layer I want to have it 1:1 in pixels! Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Have you tried File > New From Clipboard, then make sure you have 100% zoom set in Navigator Panel Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.4.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Krochmal Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 10:03 PM, firstdefence said: Have you tried File > New From Clipboard, then make sure you have 100% zoom set in Navigator Panel But it is not straight forward solution, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 7:59 AM, owenr said: Affinity is wrongly regarding the GIF as having a pixel density of 96 DPI and, therefore, scales it when importing it with the Place command into a 72 DPI document. I am not certain about this so maybe you know if it is true or not, but apparently the GIF format does not store any pixel density/DPI information at all, just the pixel dimension & optionally pixel aspect ratio info of its image blocks. IOW, the image DPI of a GIF image is undefined. According to the Inspector in Apple's Preview app, all GIF files have an "Image DPI" of "72 pixels/inch." However, that convention seems to be just about as arbitrary as Affinity's 96 DPI convention. It is just that the 72 DPI convention is more common, so unless there is some reason not to do so we don't know about, maybe Affinity should switch to that? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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R C-R Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, owenr said: My preference would be for Affinity to treat an imported GIF (which has no DPI, as you said) as if it has the importing document's DPI. That sounds like a reasonable default behavior I would not mind seeing the Affinity apps adopt, but I wonder if it would be acceptable to those expecting the 72 DPI convention instead. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 hours ago, R C-R said: That sounds like a reasonable default behavior I would not mind seeing the Affinity apps adopt, but I wonder if it would be acceptable to those expecting the 72 DPI convention instead. I'm not sure that the behavior should matter much. Isn't it basically guaranteed to be "wrong" no matter which approach they choose? I think the user will always have to resize the placed GIF file, perhaps making it smaller with Affinity assuming 72 depi but larger if it assumes the working document's dpi. (Unless the GIF happens to have been created using the same DPI as the working document, I suppose.) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: (Unless the GIF happens to have been created using the same DPI as the working document, I suppose.) GIF's do not have a DPI value, just pixel dimensions. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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