SolidSnake2003 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I have started a new photo composite of a scene in my fanfiction where the Denbroughs and their relatives pose together for a family photo on Halloween. This is a preview to see if I done ok on getting the characters into position and matching the right perspective. I wanted to get them into the right spot before starting to alter the lighting, and changing any colors. This is the closest image I could find that matches the basic look of the image: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/happy-family-mother-father-children-costumes-1512368018 Here is the preview: j3rry and TrentL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 Hope it is OK I posted a WIP project I started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentL Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Looks good. I think the tricky part of the perspective is the hats of the kids seem like they would be colliding. The vampire's arms also seem tricky. Maybe each kid could be on either side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 32 minutes ago, TrentL said: Looks good. I think the tricky part of the perspective is the hats of the kids seem like they would be colliding. The vampire's arms also seem tricky. Maybe each kid could be on either side? Like this @TrentL I want to try to make it look more like early evening, just before the kids go out trick-or-treating. I'm also deciding on if I should make it look more like the front room, or the dining room or someplace else. I got to try to find some vintage 1980s decorations. Plus if I make it the dining room, I'm considering adding a couple of black cauldrons smoking from dry ice with a greenish liquid and a red one to show off a couple of Halloween drinks the mother makes j3rry and VectorWhiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentL Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Yes, I think that looks good. Perhaps move the wizard kid a bit so the vampire kid's hand shows more clearly. Light and color balancing will definitely be the biggest challenge of this piece, although I think it is do-able. Once thing you'll want to work around is the different lighting for each of the people. For example, the girl on the left, the shadow is on the right side of the face. But vampire kid has the shadow on the left side. To help unify the color, you could just cover the whole image with an orange rectangle, and then change the rectangle's opacity to something like 25%. You could also play with the Color and Hue blend modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 @TrentL @AffinityJules @carl123 @v_kyr @firstdefence @iconoclast Here is a new preview. I moved the wizard over a little bit, adjusted the vampire by flipping the image to move the shadow to the right spot and adjusted him. I also changed the photo of the girl to one with better lighting to match better. Plus I added a couple of candy buckets, and a couple of cauldrons for the smoking drinks. Plus I added a kitchen background with counter. Hope you all like it. TrentL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 @TrentL @AffinityJules @carl123 @v_kyr @firstdefence @iconoclast Here is a new preview. I added an orange layer to start adding the coloring, and played around with some of the lighting on a couple of characters. Hope you like it. Archangel and TrentL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 @TrentL @AffinityJules @carl123 @v_kyr @firstdefence @iconoclast Here is a new preview. I duplicated the orange layer, and used the color blend mode and adjusted the opacity of both to keep the green skin on the mother who is the Wicked Witch for Halloween. I also adjusted the coloring on the buckets to blend them into the scene, and added a shadow underneath them. I also adjusted the people a little to blend them as well. Hope you all like it. Archangel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentL Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Awesome. One thing you could try to simulate depth of field is to make the buckets a little blurrier, too. Perhaps you can find some references online where foreground and background objects are blurry, but the things in the middle are in focus. SolidSnake2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Looks lighting wise good and Ok so far to me. Only the buckets in the foreground, as TrentL already mentioned above, do due to their size & sharpness draw and predominate the viewers attention (viewers eyes go first there). - You can try out if a "Depth Of Field Blur filter" (also known as Tilt-Shift-Effect or miniature) might give the scene a more emphasis to the persons instead. So tryout something into this direction with blurring (mask out portions on demand etc.)... SolidSnake2003 and TrentL 1 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 5:31 AM, TrentL said: Awesome. One thing you could try to simulate depth of field is to make the buckets a little blurrier, too. Perhaps you can find some references online where foreground and background objects are blurry, but the things in the middle are in focus. On 2/19/2024 at 5:46 AM, v_kyr said: Looks lighting wise good and Ok so far to me. Only the buckets in the foreground, as TrentL already mentioned above, do due to their size & sharpness draw and predominate the viewers attention (viewers eyes go first there). - You can try out if a "Depth Of Field Blur filter" (also known as Tilt-Shift-Effect or miniature) might give the scene a more emphasis to the persons instead. So tryout something into this direction with blurring (mask out portions on demand etc.)... @TrentL @v_kyr Thanks for the suggestion. Should I add the filter on each bucket, shadow and counter layer or to a single layer with everything merged? Sorry if I am asking a dumb question. I've never really done depth of field before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 @TrentL @v_kyr Here is a preview of what I have done using the depth of field live filter: I also moved the younger boys down more to better match their actual height compared to everyone else cause they are both under 10. Here is a preview of the image flattened: TrentL, Archangel and VectorWhiz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 @TrentL @v_kyr @AffinityJules @firstdefence @carl123 @iconoclast Here is a new preview of the composite. I changed the foreground elements around and added some drinks, and vintage party cups. Plus I added a jack-o'-lantern and a cross in the background with a gaussian blur to match as best as I could. Hope you all like it. Archangel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 I'm wondering if I should add any kind of candy to the piece. The story setting is October 1988 to Fall 1989 like the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 Hope it is ok I still ask for advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 @TrentL @v_kyr @AffinityJules @firstdefence @carl123 @iconoclast Here is a new preview of the composite. I added a bowl of assorted candy and removed the two buckets. I also added shadows underneath the cups for the juices. I also updated the depth of field to make it look better. Hope you all like it, TrentL, Archangel and j3rry 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If you remove the white part, it will fit much better. Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Komatös said: If you remove the white part, it will fit much better. How is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, SolidSnake2003 said: How is this? Yes, but soften the edges. Tulle fabric like this is soft and "fluffy" SolidSnake2003 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 13 hours ago, Komatös said: Yes, but soften the edges. Tulle fabric like this is soft and "fluffy" @Komatös How is is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, SolidSnake2003 said: How is is this? Take a longer look at it, it's darker than the part in the crook of the arm. And it lacks a bit of fine structure. I'm a fanatic when it comes to realism. Otherwise you can leave it as it is. But it's also a "thankless" motif! SolidSnake2003 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Komatös said: Take a longer look at it, it's darker than the part in the crook of the arm. And it lacks a bit of fine structure. I'm a fanatic when it comes to realism. Otherwise you can leave it as it is. But it's also a "thankless" motif! @Komatös Were you refering to the wrinkles at the top? I blurred them as much as I could. That's how the base image from the costume site where I got the image before changing the face to match the actress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 @SolidSnake2003 The red marked part is a bit darker as the green marked. And for my taste, a tiny tiny tiny bit structure missing. And can you see the offset in the worktop? SolidSnake2003 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnake2003 Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, Komatös said: @SolidSnake2003 The red marked part is a bit darker as the green marked. And for my taste, a tiny tiny tiny bit structure missing. And can you see the offset in the worktop? @Komatös Does it look better without the black thing behind it? Archangel and Komatös 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentL Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 11 minutes ago, SolidSnake2003 said: @Komatös Does it look better without the black thing behind it? I was about to suggest just taking it out. I think it looks fine with it removed. Komatös and Archangel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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