Snapping to screen

[jackamus]

One of my problems is that I can have a great number of snapping candidates all over my work space. Therefore when zoomed in dragging a guide to snap to a chosen node or handle doesn't always work accurately as the guide may be snapping to an off-screen candidate. Constantly either turning snapping ON or OFF or unchecking different snapping features is a real pain!

Therefore a feature that lets you snap only to objects in screen view will save zooming-in in order to get an accurate position of a guide. Also what would make a huge difference is to stop handles and nodes from disappearing when moving a guide!

[walt.farrell]

5 hours ago, jackamus said:

Constantly either turning snapping ON or OFF or unchecking different snapping features is a real pain!

Specifically in regard to that, you might investigate (and create) some Snapping Presets that have your commonly used settings.

But I like your idea, too. It's kind of an extension of the current option to snap only to visible objects, but further limits it to having the part you're snapping to actually on-screen.

[jackamus]

14 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Specifically in regard to that, you might investigate (and create) some Snapping Presets that have your commonly used settings.

But I like your idea, too. It's kind of an extension of the current option to snap only to visible objects, but further limits it to having the part you're snapping to actually on-screen.

Hi Walt,At last someone who agrees with me!
I wasn't aware that you could create a snapping preset. Would this be the same as customizing snapping?

Regarding snapping on screen I would imagine that anyone wanting to snap a guide to an object would necessarily have to have the object on screen.

 

[walt.farrell]

3 minutes ago, jackamus said:

Would this be the same as customizing snapping?

Yes (if I interpret "customizing" as you do). Try it  

3 minutes ago, jackamus said:

Regarding snapping on screen I would imagine that anyone wanting to snap a guide to an object would necessarily have to have the object on screen.

But there's a difference between having the object on-screen and having it completely on-screen, so every part of it that you might snap to is visible.

[Pšenda]

On 11/21/2023 at 7:44 AM, jackamus said:

One of my problems is that I can have a great number of snapping candidates all over my work space.

So limit them. Maybe just 1, and then it will only latch on to the last selected candidate - regardless of whether it's on the screen or not.

[jackamus]

That's totally impractical! I'm surprised you suggested it!

[Pšenda]

5 minutes ago, jackamus said:

That's totally impractical! I'm surprised you suggested it!

I'm rather surprised that you haven't been using it for a long time - limiting the candidates to only those that I really need to snap to is "significantly" faster and more accurate than randomly snapping to hundreds of objects around, which often make accurate snapping impossible.

[jackamus]

When I do an engineering drawing or illustration I don't want to have to keep clicking or un-clicking snapping boxes - I just want to draw! I think that snapping is an overrated function for the type of drawing I do.

[Pšenda]

12 minutes ago, jackamus said:

I think that snapping is an overrated function for the type of drawing I do.

For "engineering drawing" - at least as I perceive it, the accuracy of the drawing and thus also the snapping is absolutely essential.
But if you don't need snapping for your "freehand painting", just turn it off. Also, I don't understand why you actually require something about snapping, when you don't actually need it at all.🤔

[jackamus]

How did engineers and architects manage before computers? I'm not a 'Luddite' but modern technology has advance to the point where using your brain and human skills has become a thing of the past. When people don't have their computers, mobile phones and TV they are completely lost and with very low attention levels! People don't read books anymore. The elite who control us want us dumbed down that way we are easier to control! People don't have time to think anymore! However I won't go down that route as it would scare too many normies!

I didn't say snapping was unnecessary it does have uses particularly in my suggestion of using angled guides for perspective drawing. But the problem is that AD snapping is too cumbersome to use. The best only snapping button I use is the ON- OFF one. Telephones to use to talk to people are great but it has been developed into a time and sole destroying weapon.

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, jackamus said:

But the problem is that AD snapping is too cumbersome to use.

It sounds like that's because: 

(a) You have too many Snapping options enabled; and

(b) You have the Snapping Candidate count set too high.

[Pšenda]

23 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It sounds like that's because: 

(a) You have too many Snapping options enabled; and

(b) You have the Snapping Candidate count set too high.

After reading the previous posts, I'm afraid your advice remain misunderstood.

But hopefully other users will appreciate them, as they are the basic rules for using snapping effectively - maybe Serif could mention it in the Help under the snapping settings section.

[Pšenda]

On 11/21/2023 at 12:49 PM, walt.farrell said:

But I like your idea, too. It's kind of an extension of the current option to snap only to visible objects, but further limits it to having the part you're snapping to actually on-screen.

 

On 11/21/2023 at 1:13 PM, walt.farrell said:

But there's a difference between having the object on-screen and having it completely on-screen, so every part of it that you might snap to is visible.

The addition of this option seems to be complementary to the visible objects, but personally I believe that, at least for me, the "necessity" to display the object (whether partial or full) would be very limiting and distracting for work, so I would hardly use it. When I need to snap, I very often zoom in to achieve sufficient accuracy, so the objects I need to snap to are very often out of sight. This choice would mean the constant need to zoom out of the view, and thus the loss of context and unnecessary disruption of work efficiency.

[jackamus]

18 hours ago, Pšenda said:

 

The addition of this option seems to be complementary to the visible objects, but personally I believe that, at least for me, the "necessity" to display the object (whether partial or full) would be very limiting and distracting for work, so I would hardly use it. When I need to snap, I very often zoom in to achieve sufficient accuracy, so the objects I need to snap to are very often out of sight. This choice would mean the constant need to zoom out of the view, and thus the loss of context and unnecessary disruption of work efficiency.

When you zoom in what are you likely to be snapping to what? Is it likely to be a guide to a handle or node?

[Frozen Death Knight]

I like this idea honestly. This gets my vote.