ferz Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) Dear Sirs, I need to write documents in more than a single language, sometime the same document can have some paragraph in different languages. I'll appreciate a nice an flexible support for this kind of need. Actually I've to change language only at app level, it makes me crazy about your app translations. Edited November 13, 2021 by ferz Quote
Alfred Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 Language attributes in Affinity Publisher are applied at the character level, so there’s no need to change the language at app level or use only one language per document. You can choose a different language for a text frame, a paragraph, a sentence, a phrase, or even a single word. sfriedberg 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
Pšenda Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 11:20 AM, Alfred said: You can choose a different language for a text frame, a paragraph, a sentence, a phrase, or even a single word. ...alternatively, the language selection may be part of the Style definition. On 11/13/2021 at 9:29 AM, ferz said: it makes me crazy about your app translations. Fortunately, translation is not available for my language, so I'm saved from madness. P.S. Without an example or a suggestion for correction, the translation is difficult to improve. Alfred 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
garrettm30 Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 4:20 AM, Alfred said: Language attributes in Affinity Publisher are applied at the character level, so there’s no need to change the language at app level or use only one language per document. @ferz Alfred is right. I'll add this clarification: since language is at the character level, there is no document or app level setting that affects the text in a document. The only app level language setting is for the language of the user interface. As a character level attribute, you have just as much freedom to have multiple languages in a document as having multiple fonts in a document. Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, garrettm30 said: there is no document or app level setting that affects the text in a document. There is one, in a sense. If you're using the default Text Styles provided by Publisher, all those text styles inherit from Base. So, if you use text styles for everything, and use the default text styles, you can update the spelling language for Base and it will apply to all the text in the document. Of course, if you use your own Text Styles, you could do something similar. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Andreas Scherer Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 As I wrote earlier, the canonical mechanism to switch text languages should be described better in the manual(s). After learning the basic principle in this forum, it's clear, but certainly not for beginners. Multi-language texts can easily be created with individual character text styles that only change the language settings. In the attached screenshot, I started with text in paragraph style »Körper« (”Body“) that is derived from »Grundlage« (”Base“), which gives German settings by default. The inserted sentence in French is associated with the additional character style »Französisch« with the matching language settings. eyduh and Old Bruce 1 1 Quote
PaoloT Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 I see a problem with using character styles to apply the language attribute. What if I have a character style applying Emphasis, and another applying XReference colors, to be used in all languages? Will I have to multiplay all these styles for all the languages? Probably, this is an easier solution than using paragraph styles, since I think paragraph styles are many more than character styles (at least in my works). Paolo Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, PaoloT said: Will I have to multiplay all these styles for all the languages? Yes, you would need those styles for each language. Or, if you have that situation, and you want to avoid having multiple styles, you can choose the language for a word or phrase using the Character panel. PaoloT 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
garrettm30 Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, PaoloT said: Will I have to multiplay all these styles for all the languages? Yes. That is a weakness of styles in Publisher and the other major apps as well. I really wish you could apply multiple character styles to a selection. Of course, you would not have to use character styles. You could choose rather to simply apply it as a local adjustment. Either way, language as a character-level attribute is the only way you can have more than one language in a single paragraph. Anything else would be less flexible. PaoloT 1 Quote
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