irokiee Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Hi! What am I doing wrong at Publisher? I create a guide with a screenshot, some of which I scale. They are pasted from the windows clipboard (from memory). I set Layer Effect for one image - Outer shadow. I copy the layer - I select another picture and I do Paste FX. But instead of having the same parameters, e.g. radius and 20px offset, has the shade completely different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If the images have different sizes or DPI values the FX will scale. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokiee Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 Ok thank you - so what's the solution? Rasterize? And only after that Paste FX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 The only solution I know is to only paste FX between items with the same size and DPI but maybe someone else knows of another one. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If possible, select different objects and set the final values of the effect if you don't want them to be different. It's a long know issue with the effects or other styles that change value when pasted on some other objects. If the effects are simple ones, with few values, it a good exercice for the memory… perhaps one day we'll have an option to keep exact values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokiee Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 This is a rather weak solution - if the customer changes his mind, I will have to set it from scratch. Is there any justification for this behavior of this function? I don't see any benefit from it. I tried the picture frame - nothing. Styles - nothing too. Rasterize ... (already scaled image) - nothing ... Maybe it will change someday - may it soon ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Bohn Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but does it make a difference if the item is a picture or a picture that's in a frame? So if you are using a frame, the effect is attached to the frame and not the picture itself so in theory the resolution would not come into play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokiee Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 as I wrote earlier I just did it and it doesn't work... no sense... Jeremy Bohn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Bohn Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Agreed. I don't see why it would work this way in publisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 We had the same discussion about not understanding this variability in AD. It's the same when you save the effects as styles. When added to another object, the values can be completely wrong. You can draw another object, hoping the values will be the same, but they'll be lower or higher once the syle or effect pasted on a smaller or bigger object. Try dupplicating the original object to be sure it keep the same values, and hope you won't have to modify them later. We lack the ability to keep the exact same values, and to be able to modify an object style instead of needing to select them all and modify the effects when we want changes and to have consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Bohn Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I've posted in the past about pasting effects and getting different results than the original but never got much response. So now I at least know what's going on, but it's not good if you ask me. I'm struggling to think why someone would want it to behave as it currently does. Wosven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It's only usefull when drawing, to simulate less pression on smaller stroke perhaps, but in all the other uses, it's a flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Here it appears to work as object style applied to Picture Frames, although its size gets altered when applied to a different shape type (rect > ellipt). Make sure not to have the "Scale" option ticked: shadow as style.mp4 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokiee Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 and did you see the screen at the beginning of the post?🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokiee Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 I found a solution (and maybe also an error)! Works with both styles and Paste FX ... a funny thing ... it turns out that there is a difference when you have a document in CMYK and RGB (my document was to be an internet file and not a print so I chose RGB)... a document in CMYK has no problems with the correct style / FX assignment and the values are the same in scaled image and not scaled ... in RGB - no ... why? I have no idea! I checked in Designer and Photo - it doesn't matter CMYK or RGB. To the scaled image, the first FX pasted is ok, the second one is not. The same style department ... probably only in Publisher is ok - only in the CMYK document ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, irokiee said: a document in CMYK has no problems That's strange, since all my new documents are set to CMYK, and I did my tests on a new document, to check if the bug persists on 1.8.3, and it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokiee Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have to cancel what I wrote - again it doesn't work... Affinity makes fun of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelkobold Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 For me its the same and its a very nerving issue. I mean, why do I have the option to set a style from an object with effects, when it doesn'T apply the same on another object. f.e. I set a dropshadow with a certain value, which I want to use all through the document. So I save it as a style to use it on the next object, but nada... if I apply this to another object, the shoadow looks wholly different and I have to set the pixel values for it again. I believe that must be a bug (since I know that InDesign didn't do it that way), so please, Serif, correct that soon. Otherwise, your apps are really awesome, I love publisher so much Thanks for all ;-) irokiee, thomaso and Joachim_L 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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