ziemo Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Hi, I have a serious problems with the new Affinity 1.8 When I create a pretty big file in Affinity Designer 1.6 (bigger than 2gb) the AD 1.6 opens it in about 5 sec. When I open the same file in AD 1.8 it works the same, UNTIL I save changes. After that the file size is automatically reduced to 250 MB and works super slow. Reopening the file takes almost 2 minutes and it works way worse... looks like it is not embedding media, but linking instead. The same problem occurs when you create a brand new file in AD 1.8. When you create many artboards with many big images, the project starts to run super slow. AD 1.6 didn't have that problems at all. Looks like new Affinity has some serious performance or media placing issues... How can we force the Affinity Designer to always embed media instead of linking them? The same issue was present in AD 1.7, 1.8 didn't make anything better... Please take a look how the file behaves in AD 1.6: https://youtu.be/ds9Wjh4IHzU And how it works after saving the project in AD 1.8: https://youtu.be/F7KTDbsSf7c kei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 anybody? I don't believe only I have this issue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Callum Posted March 9, 2020 Staff Share Posted March 9, 2020 Hi Ziemo, Please could you try the below beta build to see if this improves performance? Thanks C Quote Please tag me using @ in your reply so I can be sure to respond ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Hi, I tried on BETA, but it is exactly the same behaviour. After saving file is reduced to 250 MB and completely unusable. What is going on with this software? Update after update is getting worse and worse:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 anyone?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 best support ever, seriously, you should rethink your approach because what you do with this software is ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_Wolf Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Hi Ziemo, I do not know what is wrong because I do not experience your problem. Your frustration is very understandable, however it does not solve anything. When you click on the user "Callum" you can send him a private message. If I where you, I should try that way. I do not know why it takes so long from Serif to reply because mainly they do reply. Maybe there are still looking into your problem? Anyway, they should give better support than this. When you start a new document from scratch, what happens then? Do you receive the same behaviour. If everything is ok, then you can maybe import the objects from your affected drawing and save to disk. With every safe, add a unique number to your file. You keep adding your objects and do a Save as... When you experience the buggy behaviour, at least you know what is causing it. Then you can provide more information to the Serif support team here. I hope you will find a solution to your problem soon. No need to stress, we are here to help you. I am sure other more experienced users know an answer or workaround once they know more details about your problem. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Bad_Wolf said: I do not know why it takes so long from Serif to reply because mainly they do reply. Isn't it reasonable to assume that the coronavirus pandemic has a lot to do with the delay? Like with so many other businesses all over the world, all the staff are most likely trying to adjust to working entirely from their homes. So among other things, they probably do not have access to test computers at the office & can't collaborate face to face with each other. jmwellborn, Callum and kei 2 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_Wolf Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 That is indeed a very acceptable explanation which is supported by the fact that Serif always reply. I hope everybody is fine and safe. I also wish everybody a good health and hope nobody will get infected. Chris Callum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Callum Posted March 23, 2020 Staff Share Posted March 23, 2020 I apologise for the delayed response it has been a hectic month for us with the 1.8 update launch and the UK lockdown unfortunately it means some threads such as this one have fallen through the cracks. Please could you provide the file in question so I can investigate this at my end? Could you also please provide the full specifications of your Mac? Quote Please tag me using @ in your reply so I can be sure to respond ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hi, this time I'm sorry for getting back here after so long time... Well, I tested it 100 times and every time the situation is exactly the same. It's not happening on one particular project, it happens with EVERY document created on Affinity 1.6 which I then try to edit and save in the AD 1.8 (the newest version as well). When I save the file (or use "save as" and create a new file) it makes a 900mb file a 61mb and links every image which was previously embeded... it works very bad. In case you would like to investigate it I paste here some file created in AD 1.6: https://we.tl/t-y5YDCTd2M9 I would appreciate some help with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 The file you just uploaded is 950MB it took my 1.8 designer 5 seconds to open it I then "saved as" to a new file The new file is now 60MB and takes my 1.8 designer 14 seconds to open it Affinity Publisher shows that all images are embedded not linked and the total size of all embedded images is 43MB I am not seeing any real performance problems or glitchiness with the new 1.8 version of the file. Maybe they (Affinity) have managed to improve (reduce) the file size needed in 1.8 compared to 1.6 but at the expense of the loading time and maybe some glitchiness that you can see but I can't I am on Windows and can see you are on a MAC, what is the spec of your MAC? Maybe someone with a similar MAC can report what they are seeing with your file Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G13RL Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Same findings as carl123. I modified the file by duplicating two photos, saved and closed it. I reopened the file and modified it a second time by duplicating other photos, saved again and closed it. Each time the edited files are opened in 9 seconds and the operation is smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 Well 14 seconds with this file is pretty long don't you think? I have some files that opens above 1 minute, where AD 1.6 opens them in 10 seconds. And they are very glitchy when they finally opens. I'm on Macbook PRO, 15 inch, late 2014 model with IRIS PRO graphics and i7 2,2 ghz processor. AD 1.6 works smoothly with files like 3-4 GB while AD 1.8 is practically unusable with such big files... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 I have another example of glitchy performance of 1.8.3 I've created a two files, one in AD 1.8.3 and one in AD 1.6. I used the same images. Look how glitchy it is to move objects in AD 1.8.3 (not to mention this version with so many images in project crashes every 10 min...😞 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazums Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Hi there! I had this lag while draging problem since 1.7 version. Updated drivers, tried different preformance settings / different document sizes, updated my GPU and still nothing. GPU, CPU, disc etc in device manager works around 5% stress. Reinstaling, instaling beta version, nothing. I think that Designer is suited for specyfic types of PC configuration. Affinity Photo works smooth as butter :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daizy Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) i got same problem i use 1.8 version, I feel this problem when working with multiple layers Edited November 7, 2020 by daizy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazums Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Ok I have updated my RAM (8gb to 16gb). It seems to be working for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazums Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Nope, still broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazums Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 No respond from Serif... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grégory M Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I suspect I have the same issue. Going back to work from past year and they are now incredibly sluggish - not only to open but to manipulate, which is a big big issue (reason I switched from Illustrator in the first place). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazums Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 When I am designing icons and small thing, everything works fine but try to add more layers with effects and It start to run like garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 they really don't give a s*** about it... seriously, they support should start learning from Adobe, because they are far behind. I switched from macbook to iMac 2019 with 20bs of ram, 4gb graphic card, and guess what: it works as slow as on 2014 MBP... sorry, maybe sometimes it is 2sec faster (in 40s of opening time) To compare things: AD 1.6 works super fast even if I have 30 artboards loaded with photos. What is sad: they won't let you downgrade, even if you bought 1.6 in the past. Really, Serif - shame on you. You didn't even bother to check this issue. Congratulation of your customer service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashgear Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Any update on this? 6 months in and still no solution. This should be a #1 priority. An update would be nice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziemo Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 Try calling them;D they will fix this (or not) in AD 3.0 which you will have to pay for;D Seriously, they should relase version 1.6.4 now as a HUGE performance update, there is nothing version 1.9 does better than the old one. In my opinion this is the trick to force all the pro users to buy their next product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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