Bartek B Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Hello Im new to Affinity Photo, but so far, extremally satisfied with its functionality. Im using Affinity Photo version 1.7.3.481, windows 10 home trying to install polish language pack, I have downloaded 3 files off https://github.com/LibreOffice/dictionaries/tree/master/pl_PL and placed them in C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\affinity language Polish - custom folder I have created, I have changed the Additional dictionary folder path in preferences to that. Still dont see it as spelling language, any tips why? Quote
Staff Callum Posted February 7, 2020 Staff Posted February 7, 2020 Hi Bartek B, Welcome to the forums Please could you confirm that it doesn't show in the spelling dropdown of the languages section in the character panel? Thanks C Quote Please tag me using @ in your reply so I can be sure to respond ASAP.
walt.farrell Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bartek B said: and placed them in C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\affinity language Polish - custom folder I have created, I have changed the Additional dictionary folder path in preferences to that. You should not change the Additional Dictionary folder. What you should do is name your directory pl_PL and put it in C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\ (giving you C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\pl_PL with the .dic files directly inside it). Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Bartek B Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Hello Walt, Callum, I have named the directory pl_PL It works now in the way that the language is detectable, BUT all the words get underlined - like those were incorrect - I would assume this means the dict itself is not working correctly? Edited February 7, 2020 by Bartek B Quote
walt.farrell Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bartek B said: It works now in the way that the language is detectable, BUT all the words get underlined - like those were incorrect - I would assume this means the dict itself is not working correctly? If you click in one of the words with the red underline, then look in the Character studio panel, and look at the Language section, is the Spelling language set to Polish? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
walt.farrell Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Thanks, Bartek. I'm out of ideas then. Sorry. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Bartek B Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 could you point me towards other sources of language packs? Quote
walt.farrell Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bartek B said: could you point me towards other sources of language packs? You can do an Internet search for Hunspell dictionaries to find some. Google provided: https://github.com/wooorm/dictionaries https://www.openoffice.org/lingucomponent/dictionary.html https://www.freeoffice.com/en/download/dictionaries I have not tried any of them. When you installed the Polish dictionaries from the LibreOffice GitHub site, did you install all 3 files (pl_PL.dic, pl_PL.aff, hyph_pl_PL.dic)? It's possible that the dictionaries need to be in UTF-8 format. Here's a copy of the LibreOffice files that I have re-encoded as UTF-8. You might try them and see if they work better for you: pl_PL.zip I've tried a few words from your post above and they seem to be accepted, but I can't do a real test. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Staff MEB Posted February 7, 2020 Staff Posted February 7, 2020 Hi Bartek B, Welcome to Affinity Forums You can also try the files from LibreOffice. They should work. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
Bartek B Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 thank you MEB! Almost there:) SO, now language checks work correctly - the only thing still not working is what started my quest originally - hypernation is selecting hypernation language enough to make it work? Quote
walt.farrell Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Bartek B said: Is selecting hypernation language enough to make it work? You also need to enable automatic hyphenation in the Paragraph panel or in the Paragraph Text Style that you're using. And you may need to adjust the hypernation options there, too. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
h_d Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 You'll need to ensure Auto-Hyphenation is turned on in the Paragraph panel: But it also appears that if the text is "left align" (as yours is) then hyphenation will not be applied. This is typographically correct in UK English practice - only justified text should also be hyphenated. Screenshots below. In the first paragraph of the second shot, "porridge" is hyphenated: Hope this helps! Quote Affinity Photo 2.5.3, Affinity Designer 2.5.3, Affinity Publisher 2.5.3, Mac OSX 14.5, 2018 MacBook Pro 15" Intel.
Bartek B Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 not sure if thats the difference between Photo and Publisher, my paragraph menu is much more limited than above Quote
Staff MEB Posted February 7, 2020 Staff Posted February 7, 2020 Yes, Designer and Photo's Paragraph panel are considerably more limited than Publisher's one which is Affinity's dedicated desktop publishing app and as such offers more control over typography/text formatting. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
h_d Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Ah sorry @Bartek B, I missed the context of your original request. As a picture-editing app, I suspect Photo doesn't have much in the way of hyphenation options. That said, in the 1.8 Beta versions (not sure about 1.7), a hyphenated text frame can be cut and pasted from Publisher into Photo and the resulting text will remain hyphenated and editable. Quote Affinity Photo 2.5.3, Affinity Designer 2.5.3, Affinity Publisher 2.5.3, Mac OSX 14.5, 2018 MacBook Pro 15" Intel.
walt.farrell Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bartek B said: not sure if thats the difference between Photo and Publisher, my paragraph menu is much more limited than above Sorry; I forgot you were a Photo user. Automatic hyphenation is a feature that only Publisher provides. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Fixx Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, h_d said: if the text is "left align" (as yours is) then hyphenation will not be applied. This is typographically correct in UK English practice - only justified text should also be hyphenated In proper EU languages hyphenation should apply also to left align text! Normal hyphenation controls adjust how much hyphenation is applied and of course it is possible set them so that no hyphenation is visible (unless you use words like "suurtehokolmivaihekilowattituntimittari"). h_d 1 Quote
h_d Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 I'm sure it varies from country to country - it's a matter of custom and practice, not of absolute right and wrong. And we do sometimes see hyphenated left-aligned text in the UK. But as an old-school print sub-editor it sets my teeth on edge. Except of course in special cases like 'antidisestablishmentarianism' and 'Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch' Mind you, if you're being really strict, proper nouns shouldn't be hyphenated even in justified text. jmwellborn 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2.5.3, Affinity Designer 2.5.3, Affinity Publisher 2.5.3, Mac OSX 14.5, 2018 MacBook Pro 15" Intel.
Fixx Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 And we are talking about polish language here... Quote
Fritz_H Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 Honestly I don´t really like the idea, that such important elements like spellchecker and hyphenation are provided by freeware. I would feel more confident, if this service was provided by professional products. (optionally using the Spellchecker-engine of MS Office would be great: to have only one personal dictionary with all those job-/language-/business-related acronyms, abbreviations etc..)Adding Online-Services for spell- and grammar-checking may raise problems with the GDPR, NDA etc. kind regards Fritz Quote
Fritz_H Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 @Lagarto well, the "engine" is one thing, but the dictionary is the more important part, I think. If words are not listed in the dic you will get lots of false positives at the spell-check. Additionally, Microsoft-Applications also recognize grammar mistakes - in german (!!) ((not perfect, but pretty impressive...)) In the end you say that you still need ANY reliable Spellchecker - if its not included in the Graphics-Application, it needs to be another tool.. I guess the need depends on the work-situation: If you are a professional Graphics-Service-provider who will receive all required content - resources you don´t have to care about spelling, grammar or quality of images: the Client is always right... If you are less "Pro" you will appreciate a solid Spell- /Grammar- /Hyphenation- check Engine. kind regards Fritz Quote
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