Boroji Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Hi, How to add space between words without adding space between letters in a whole paragraph ? Everytime I add space it also modifies the letters, I just want to add word spacing. Thank you letter spacing.mp4 semsemch and Rembrandt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 You're in the Character panel, which (as its name suggests) deals with characters, and the two settings there (kerning, tracking) deal with space between letters. Perhaps you want the Justification section of the Paragraph panel. The first 3 entries there provide settings for minimum, maximum, and desired word spacing. Boroji and semsemch 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroji Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 i exactly want to modify the word spacing. in the paragraph panel there is no option to adjust the desired word spacing. justify is the only preset option to adjust the space. there is no manual way to adjust space between words ? Rembrandt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Boroji said: there is no manual way to adjust space between words ? This may sound flippant but you can add spaces using the spacebar and the Text > Insert Character > Em Space and En Space. They are the same width as the font height and half the width of the font height. The justification section of the Paragraph panel has a section about desired word spacing and Maximum word spacing 250% seems to be the maximum. Jenna Appleseed and Boroji 2 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 47 minutes ago, Boroji said: there is no manual way to adjust space between words? As I said, that's the first three settings in the justification part of the paragraph panel. Boroji 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: As I said, that's the first three settings in the justification part of the paragraph panel. @Boroji, maybe this will help you better understand what Walt meant: walt.farrell and Boroji 1 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroji Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 @R C-R Thank you so much. That exactly solved my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroji Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 thank you too @walt.farrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 You're welcome. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroji Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 thank you so much @Old Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyD Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Wow, that is not intuitive at all. Word spacing is such a huge typography tool for copy fitting. Walt, Bruce, RC-R: Thank you for explaining this. Boroji: Thanks for bringing this topic up so we can easily find it. Serif: If your paying attention, making this more obvious and easier to find would be a very welcome addition. Rembrandt and walt.farrell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I want to second that request. I often have text with multiple lines that are purposely not justified, and sometimes a single line of this text is a bit too wide. It is typographically the better way to adjust the word spacing, before squeezing the letters. So please add this configuration. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 11:17 AM, BunnyD said: Wow, that is not intuitive at all. Word spacing is such a huge typography tool for copy fitting. ... Serif: If your paying attention, making this more obvious and easier to find would be a very welcome addition. IMO the placement of the controls makes sense, they're not used everyday, but I think the naming could be improved. They're named Justification which doesn't make sense to me because desired word and letter spacing also apply to non-justified text. I recently suggested that it be renamed to Alignment Options. 10 minutes ago, Rembrandt said: I want to second that request. I often have text with multiple lines that are purposely not justified, and sometimes a single line of this text is a bit too wide. It is typographically the better way to adjust the word spacing, before squeezing the letters. So please add this configuration. 🙂 I'm not sure I understand, the option is already there in the Justification section of the Paragraph panel. The name of the section may be misleading but the word spacing options will apply just as well to your non-justified text. Cheers Rembrandt and R C-R 2 Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Aaah, now I see. You're right. Thanks for nudging me in the right direction. 🙂 It is indeed hard to find there, when you want to apply a fixed spacing and do not know that it is handled like this. Now that I know where to find it I even prefer it that way, as it is even more and better configurable. Thanks again for that quick reply and all the best. 🎅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Rembrandt said: Aaah, now I see. You're right. Thanks for nudging me in the right direction. 🙂 It is indeed hard to find there, when you want to apply a fixed spacing and do not know that it is handled like this. Now that I know where to find it I even prefer it that way, as it is even more and better configurable. Thanks again for that quick reply and all the best. 🎅 You'll find more information on this topic on page 89 of the free Publisher 2.3 manual I've shared in this forum. The link to download it is in my signature below. Cheers Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oufti Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, MikeTO said: You'll find more information on this topic on page 89 […] [Small typo] At the end of this page, I think one must read Character instead of Paragraph: Quote Minimum, Desired, and Maximum letter spacing: Set the desired space between characters, before the application of kerning and tracking. […]. Changing the desired spacing is similar to chang- ing tracking at the paragraph character level. Quote Affinity Suite 2.4 – Monterey 12.7.4 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Oufti said: [Small typo] At the end of this page, I think one must read Character instead of Paragraph: I think I just worded it poorly. I meant it is similar to changing tracking for a paragraph since the Justification options apply to the paragraph as a whole. I will reword it. Thanks! Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oufti Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Thank you, I get it. IOW you meant: Changing the desired Letter spacing does the same as Tracking does for a selection of characters, but for whole paragraphs. (My confusion came from that the word Tracking seems in APub to be only used for the characters panel.) Sorry for the disturbance. Quote Affinity Suite 2.4 – Monterey 12.7.4 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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