waveman777

Thanks for the explanation, it make sense if it's the same build, but then the message from the Beta "To participate in the beta you need to install Affinity Designer Beta from the Mac App Store" is totally misleading and I don't understand it at all.

As I said, version 1.7.0 installed from AppStore, I thought I made myself clear. Also, there are no Beta versions on AppStore. It is not. In this case the Beta version is 1.7.0.14, and the one from AppStore is 1.7.0, therefore the Beta is newer so what you're saying seems incorrect. Also, I don't understand the message displayed: "To participate in the beta you need to install Affinity Designer Beta from the Mac App Store" - how am I suppose to install Beta from AppStore if it's a Beta!??

What should I do with this? I have AD (from App Store) purchased and installed.

But it should. This is one of the biggest pain for users trying to switch to AD from different software. Is there any scenario that you have in mind where this would come handy? I think being able to disable it should solve the problem and would make everyone happy.

Do you mean, you changed the the way it works and selection is not counted as action anymore? If so, I'm sorry for the previous reply, my mind just wanted to understand how it still works.

Ben, thanks, I get it, but what's been stated doesn't make common sense. I read the examples you provided when this solution is needed but I still don't get it. This is how I understand it, and this is a scenario: Action 1 applied to Object A > selection, deselection, selection of many different objects etc > Action 2 applied to Object B > selection, deselection, selection of many different objects etc > Action 3 applied to Object C > Action 4 applied to Object D > selection, deselection, selection of many different objects etc > Action 5 applied to Object E. Now, I'm hitting UNDO and this is what SHOULD happen.: Undo 1 > Action 5 applied to Object E UNDONE selection, deselection, selection of many different objects etc Undo 2 > Action 4 applied to Object D UNDONE Undo 3 > Action 3 applied to Object C UNDONE selection, deselection, selection of many different objects etc Undo 4 > Action 2 applied to Object B UNDONE selection, deselection, selection of many different objects etc Undo 5 > Action 1 applied to Object A UNDONE 5 Actions = 5 UNDO's. This is how it works in Illustrator, Photoshop, Indesign, Quark, CorelDraw, Gimp, Pixelmator, and every other piece of software out there. AND - you UNDO > REDO as you please. Action is applied to an Object X and it's Undone from Object X - not any other object. With Affinity Designer- 5 Actions = infinite Undo's depending on how many objects you selected/deselected during the process. AND - you gave to be very very VERY careful NOT TO click on any object - because ALL YOU REDO HISTORY WILL BE GONE. Could you please tell me what's wrong with the way I think? And what's wrong the the way of thinking of all software developers out there who decided not to do it your way? I'd appreciate it. Regards

I paid for it over 4 years ago, when updates were rolling out all the time. I'm still unable to switch from Illustrator, because some AD solutions are making the workflow painfully slow. Right now I'm trying to figure out, why using a shortcut twice makes it switch to a previously used one... Whose crazy idea was that?? In illustrator, no matter how many times I click "T" tool, it's still I Text Tool, in AD, "T" can become anything, depending on what was used next, so I have to be careful all the time not to accidentally press it twice, as I'm using shortcuts constantly and switching between them. In Illustrator - I don't think about it ever, a shortcut is a shortcut! to one particular tool! AD drives me crazy. And I'm also unable to use Undo > Redo history, because when going 10 steps back, I need to be very careful not to select any object with a mouse, because if I do, all Redo history is gone, as AD is counting object selection as an action. Another crazy idea that makes the workflow a pain. AD is good, for beginners, who have plenty time to play with it. If you're in a hurry and want to finish something fast, it not always the best solution.

Any updates on this one? Still unable to use AD efficiently, it is really annoying. Each time I try to switch from Illustrator, I go back to it after 5 minutes with AD. Object selection is still recorded as an action for absolutely no reason, and all redo history is gone once you select anything after clicking cmd+z a few times you cannot redo your actions, just because you might have accidentally clicked on any of the objects. This is crazy and it drives me mad. How can I work like this...

4 years later... Adobe Illustrator is winning all the way.

I'm sorry Ben but I don't get this logic at all. How come it has never been a problem in Adobe Illustrator or any graphic design software I used? Whatever happens regarding selection should be taken care under the hood, we just don't want to have selecting objects as part of undo history, because when we click somewhere else and deselect an object, we loose the ability to redo commands that happened later. Object selection is not an action I care about. When I hit "undo" that means I want to undo certain changes I made, not to deselect an object! If I wanted to deselect an object, I'd simply click anywhere outside of it or selected another object. It looks like you're trying to reinvent the wheel. I've never encounter such counterproductive solution in any other software. Undo should undo recent command applied, not recent command applied to a "selection".

But this is not the case - the problem is not related to Affinity Photo running slow on "Software" mode - it is all set to OpenGL. The problem is that it's extremely slow despite using OpenGL, that means, it's not well developed.

HI Chris, unfortunately this is not the case. It's always been OpenGL in my case, but when I changed it to "software", I didn't notice any difference, the same goes for OpenGL Basic. All extremely slow, especially when compared to latest Photoshop which is blazing fast. Any ideas why is it like that if both software supposedly use hardware acceleration?

Exactly. But it's advertised as software that has "all the power and performance you will ever need". Well, it seems that I need at least Mac Pro with 16 cores to make it work properly. In this case I'm really impressed with Adobe Photoshop. even though it's twice as big, it opens faster, and Liquify work perfectly without a hassle in real time. I don't know what's Adobe secret to it, but it all works really fast on a mid 2009 dual core Macbook Pro, having GeForce 9400M with only 256Mb memory on board. It's impressive. So, again, I bought Affinity Photo, and have to stick with Adobe for another year. because it simply works. Affinity Photo is at least 50 times slower. Very poor user experience.

Hi, After giving Affinity Designer a try, and still struggling with it due to bugs, missing features and unresolved problems, I decided to give Affinity Photo a try, used it for 5 minutes, and gave up. A opened a relatively small picture, very tiny one, and jumped straight to Liquify Persona. No matter which option I used, it works extremely slow, so slow that it's simply unusable. I had to wait sometimes 10 seconds to see the results of a mouse move, which is unacceptable. I played with all options there, no luck, no way someone can work this way. So, I opened the same file in the latest Photoshop CC 2018 and went straight to Liquify Tool - and guess what! Everything works fast, smoothly and beautifully! All moves are reflected instantly. Same goes for AD - keep going back to Illustrator. So, in short, I bought both Affinity software since it first appeared on AppStore, and still not using it - only AD, occasionally, for symbols... I really wanted this to replace Adobe software on my computer and I think I had my hopes too high. Don't want to complain, but when I paid for it, the development was really fast, now I feel that the most important things are still unresolved.

May I ask why important issues, like the one below with UNDO, is not on a roadmap list of important things to fix??