ashf Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 I'd like to create a document that has non-spread page 1 with start on left layout. When I select start on left layout, page 1&2 will be a spread page.(refer pic 1) But I want to make page 1 single.(refer pic 2) This is necessary when I create a book in East Asian format. two-ack, Glicky, Stocker.jp and 1 other 4 Quote
ashf Posted July 5, 2019 Author Posted July 5, 2019 UPDATE: I replaced pic 2Actually page 2&3 on pic 2(What I want) should be reverse order. Quote
walt.farrell Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Your pictures show the page numbering order as 1, 3, 2 which seems wrong. Wouldn't it really be spread 3,2 followed by 1 as a single page on the left? You'd start on the last page (1), flip the page and continue on the right-hand page (2) then move to the left-and page (3). Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
ashf Posted July 5, 2019 Author Posted July 5, 2019 6 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Your pictures show the page numbering order as 1, 3, 2 which seems wrong. That's a fake pic I created. This is common magazine/book format in East Asia especially Japan. Japan's layout/typography rules are extremely complex, there are many thing you don't know. Please refer this(It's a Japanese article, so just look at the page order illustration)https://www.wave-inc.co.jp/data/pdct-book/indesign.html walt.farrell 1 Quote
Fixx Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 I think the point is that japanese books are read from back to front (in western eyes, obviously back and front are just changed, leafing though a book happens from right to left). As OP presented the pages may well be the right way to do it in Japan (probably ID and QX have this right). Of course it might be possible to have front page at the bottom of pages panel and flow content backwards but this in probably not the way eastern designers want it :-D At the moment designs just have to be kludged (forced to behave differently) to serve japan needs. I assume eastern features will appear sooner or later (probably later, sadly). capturleat 1 Quote
ashf Posted July 5, 2019 Author Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Fixx said: At the moment designs just have to be kludged (forced to behave differently) to serve japan needs. I assume eastern features will appear sooner or later (probably later, sadly). Yes I understand that but unless I mention this, no one in Serif will notice that some people need this. Since most of Japanese don't speak English so they won't request it here. I'm posting this on behalf of them. lynzrand, Fixx and Stocker.jp 3 Quote
Stocker.jp Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 I also want this function. 99% of Japanese comics and novels are right-handed. omachi and lynzrand 2 Quote
ashf Posted August 4, 2019 Author Posted August 4, 2019 This is called "binding direction" in Indesign. https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/arabic-hebrew.html Bookbinding - Orientationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding#Orientation "In China (only areas using Traditional Chinese), Japan, and Taiwan, literary books are written top-to-bottom, right-to-left, and thus are bound on the right, while text books are written left-to-right, top-to-bottom, and thus are bound on the left." It doesn't mention about Middle Eastern culture but they have the same binding direction, just text direction is different. Stocker.jp 1 Quote
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