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I'd like to create a document that has non-spread page 1 with start on left layout.

When I select start on left layout, page 1&2 will be a spread page.(refer pic 1)
But I want to make page 1 single.(refer pic 2)

This is necessary when I create a book in East Asian format.

spread-left-actual.png

 

spread-left-i-want.png

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Your pictures show the page numbering order as 1, 3, 2 which seems wrong.

Wouldn't it really be spread 3,2 followed by 1 as a single page on the left? You'd start on the last page (1), flip the page and continue on the right-hand page (2) then move to the left-and page (3).

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6 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Your pictures show the page numbering order as 1, 3, 2 which seems wrong.

That's a fake pic I created.

This is common magazine/book format in East Asia especially Japan.
Japan's layout/typography rules are extremely complex, there are many thing you don't know.

Please refer this(It's a Japanese article, so just look at the page order illustration)
https://www.wave-inc.co.jp/data/pdct-book/indesign.html

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I think the point is that japanese books are read from back to front (in western eyes, obviously back and front are just changed, leafing though a book happens from right to left). As OP presented the pages may well be the right way to do it in Japan (probably ID and QX have this right). Of course it might be possible to have front page at the bottom of pages panel and flow content backwards but this in probably not the way eastern designers want it :-D

At the moment designs just have to be kludged (forced to behave differently) to serve japan needs. I assume eastern features will appear sooner or later (probably later, sadly).

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2 hours ago, Fixx said:

At the moment designs just have to be kludged (forced to behave differently) to serve japan needs. I assume eastern features will appear sooner or later (probably later, sadly).

Yes I understand that but unless I mention this, no one in Serif will notice that some people need this.
Since most of Japanese don't speak English so they won't request it here.
I'm posting this on behalf of them.

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This is called "binding direction" in Indesign.

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/arabic-hebrew.html

Bookbinding - Orientation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding#Orientation

"In China (only areas using Traditional Chinese), Japan, and Taiwan, literary books are written top-to-bottom, right-to-left, and thus are bound on the right, while text books are written left-to-right, top-to-bottom, and thus are bound on the left."
It doesn't mention about Middle Eastern culture but they have the same binding direction, just text direction is different.

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