DM1 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 After selecting Clone tool, long pressing with pencil brings up viewer loupe but no crosshair visible and no clone point selected. Patrick Connor 1 M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted May 29, 2019 Staff Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hey DM1, I believe this is by design. We require you to pick a source with your finger as opposed to the Apple Pencil. This is because the Apple Pencil is so sensitive and would require such a big tolerance that it would lag the start of a brush stroke. How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 @Chris B Ok, I can understand that. In that case the loupe should not display when touch for Gestures is on and pen is pressed while Clone is selected. It looks like it is selecting but it isn’t. Paul Mudditt 1 M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Bump. The eyeglass loupe still appearing in RC2 when pressing with pencil (which is unnecessary as it doesn’t do anything). M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 Bump. Loupe still appearing when long press pencil. Confusing to users as it does nothing. 1.7.0.135 M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted May 31, 2019 Staff Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 10:38 AM, DM1 said: @Chris B Ok, I can understand that. In that case the loupe should not display when touch for Gestures is on and pen is pressed while Clone is selected. It looks like it is selecting but it isn’t. I think the loupe appears so you can see where you are painting without the Apple Pencil obstructing the view for accuracy purposes. I don't mind it but I agree it could be confusing if you don't know that the Apple Pencil cannot pick a source. Then again, you do get a message saying 'You must press and hold to set a source before trying to clone', which to me suggests you need to use your finger. How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chris B said: You must press and hold to set a source before trying to clone', which to me suggests you need to use your finger. Thanks Chris, As I mainly use the pencil I assumed press and hold appearing when I pressed the pencil on screen, meant press and hold the pencil. Clearly this is going to cause some confusion/angst in the wider community once the update is released. Maybe a switch in settings to turn the loupe preview on or off. The pencil doesn’t really obstruct work to any great degree. I suspect leaving the loupe active will, in the long term, cause more issues with users than simply removing it when pencil is used (Touch for Gestures active). Time will tell. M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Andy Somerfield Posted May 31, 2019 Staff Share Posted May 31, 2019 The truth of this is that we have changed our minds about what should show / when we should show the loupe numerous times, finally decided, then forgot to implement what we decided everywhere. In this situation, the loupe should show when a finger is being used to select a source, but not when using the pencil to actually clone. Thanks, A DM1, Paul Mudditt and Patrick Connor 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mudditt Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 8:05 PM, Andy Somerfield said: The truth of this is that we have changed our minds about what should show / when we should show the loupe numerous times, finally decided, then forgot to implement what we decided everywhere. In this situation, the loupe should show when a finger is being used to select a source, but not when using the pencil to actually clone. Thanks, A In my day job, we have had one of those 2 hour meetings to thrash out how a device feature should work as well, three months later we’re like, how was that supposed to work again Chris B and DM1 1 1 My dad always told me, a bad workman always blames their tools…. Just waiting for Ronny Pickering….. Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on macOS Sonoma 14 on M1 Mac Mini 16GB 1TB Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on Windows 10 Pro. Deceased Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 2.4 on M1 iPad Pro 11” on iPadOS 17.4 https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityForiPad https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityPhoto/ The hardest link to find https://affinity.help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Paul Mudditt said: one of those 2 hour meetings to thrash out how a device feature should work The only way to end meetings that last 2hrs is to say yes to whatever is suggested, just to end the suffering. Paul Mudditt, Andy Somerfield and Chris B 1 2 M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Andy Somerfield Posted June 2, 2019 Staff Share Posted June 2, 2019 6 hours ago, DM1 said: The only way to end meetings that last 2hrs is to say yes to whatever is suggested, just to end the suffering. This A Chris B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted June 3, 2019 Staff Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 6:05 PM, Andy Somerfield said: the loupe should show when a finger is being used to select a source, but not when using the pencil to actually clone Does this want logging Andy? How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 3:05 AM, Andy Somerfield said: The truth of this is that we have changed our minds about what should show / when we should show the loupe numerous times, finally decided, then forgot to implement what we decided everywhere. In this situation, the loupe should show when a finger is being used to select a source, but not when using the pencil to actually clone. Thanks, A Unfortunately it’s still showing. M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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