Master pages margins

[SirPL]

Hello guys!

I got problem with setting different margins for odd and even pages in a two-page master.

I am creating a document which has numbered paragraphs. I made a base style which has increased left margin and negative first line indent. To keep the text centered I have to decrease outter margin on left page and inner margin on a right one.

I theoretically could make a text frame that extends the margin, but then I would have to take care of its correct placement and size.

Is it possible in Publisher to set margins per master's page?

Hope my question is clear.

[dominik]

39 minutes ago, SirPL said:

Hello guys!

I got problem with setting different margins for odd and even pages in a two-page master.

I am creating a document which has numbered paragraphs. I made a base style which has increased left margin and negative first line indent. To keep the text centered I have to decrease outter margin on left page and inner margin on a right one.

I theoretically could make a text frame that extends the margin, but then I would have to take care of its correct placement and size.

Is it possible in Publisher to set margins per master's page?

Hope my question is clear.

I think the easiest way would be to place guides on the master page to achieve an asymmetrical layout. I mean a vertical guide where the text frames left border is supposed to be located.

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[jmwellborn]

 

2 hours ago, dominik said:

I think the easiest way would be to place guides on the master page to achieve an asymmetrical layout. I mean a vertical guide where the text frames left border is supposed to be located.

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Am I looking at the same thing?   Is SirPL trying to create a document with facing pages for duplex printing?    If so, here is how I set up my master pages, and the margins hold for every document page.    No need to use guides and then draw text frames.    Possibly I don't understand, because  otherwise, if SirPL wants each page to have the exact same layout as his example shows, wouldn't it be easiest to have a single Master Page, and then just add pages in his document as single pages, not facing pages?   Anyway, here are shots of what I do.

 

[Fixx]

It is possible to have different margins at left and right side pages:

Trick is to set document spread margins first and then adjust master page and apply it only to the other side (or alternatively use two sets of masters). I am not though sure if this is useful as I think you cannot automatically replicate the setup when adding pages. This area in Publisher is a work in progress, I am afraid. You should be able to set left and right page master differently to begin with. Not to mention that text frames do not automatically follow margins as happens in InDesign.

 

[dominik]

3 hours ago, jmwellborn said:

If so, here is how I set up my master pages, and the margins hold for every document page.    No need to use guides and then draw text frames. 

Hi @jmwellborn,

when I tested this before posting I was not able to create a spread with facing pages that has no symetrical margins (= no inner and outer margins but left and right margin the same on both pages).

This is the reason why I chose to use guides on the master page instead of margins.
I may have missed something.

d.

 

[dominik]

2 hours ago, Fixx said:

This area in Publisher is a work in progress, I am afraid.

This is my impression as well (not complaining). The best approach I have found so far is to use guides. I am aware that this is a temporary workaround.

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[thomaso]

Would a different way possibly be? :

1. create two (single) master pages and define their different margins

2. create one third spread of two facing pages

3. apply the masters of step 1 accordingly to both pages of the spread. 

[dominik]

11 minutes ago, thomaso said:

A different way would be:

1. create 2 single master pages and define their different margins

2. create one spread of two facing pages

3. apply the masters of step 1 to both pages of the spread. 

Interesting, this seems to work 

I had to do the following in step 2: in 'Spread Properties > Margins' untick 'Include Margins'.

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[jmwellborn]

20 hours ago, dominik said:

Hi @jmwellborn,

when I tested this before posting I was not able to create a spread with facing pages that has no symetrical margins (= no inner and outer margins but left and right margin the same on both pages).

This is the reason why I chose to use guides on the master page instead of margins.
I may have missed something.

d.

 

Now I am confused!!    

[dominik]

12 hours ago, jmwellborn said:

Now I am confused!!    

Hi @jmwellborn,

please take a look at the OP's screenshot in the first post of this thread. What he wants to accomplish is facing pages with assymetrical margins (= two different inner margins).

This is not possible in the spread setup you are showing in your post.

As @thomaso pointed out (see above) it can be accomplished with different master pages but it does not work properly if one adds pages with autoflow.

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