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1 hour ago, firstdefence said:

I don't think the Linux fraternity quite understand serif's logistical restrictions compared to the likes of Adobe. 

I think some of them do not understand that (from what I can tell) nobody posting in these forums is saying they should not use Linux if that is what they prefer, just that there are several very good reasons why Serif is not currently interested in trying to develop & support Linux versions of the Affinity apps.


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9 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Au Contraire, I've just installed Linux Mint on a HP DV9500 Laptop only niggle was the wireless but an Edimax Thumbnail dongle sorted that and it now runs much better than windows ever did. It originally had Windows V**ta, I upgraded it to Windows 7 prior to putting Linux Mint on and to say it was slow was an understatement, it also had the Wireless dropping out issue but it worked fine in V**ta. 

Customer is now a happy bunny because they have a usable laptop.

I invite you to try KDE Neon if you don't mind. It's Ubuntu Based and workS very well also it doesn't come tOne of stuffs you may not need at all, just the necessary from there You may experience something even new.

I love Mint but ... It's Not what I would recommend these days, better go lightweight stuff that uses less Computer Resources.

Happy to know you do Linux


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29 minutes ago, Uncle Mez said:

I invite you to try KDE Neon if you don't mind.

Will take a look, downloading now. :D


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8 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

Will take a look, downloading now. :D

Just get far from the ksuite (mai in this case) go for mailspring instead you can get it from the canonical snap website plus dozen of other tools that will help you on daily basis.

I Will share a quick video tour of my KDE Neon desktop here as soon as I have Enough  time To do that but before that Comes,enjoy your neon Life.

Also There is an active community of Neon users on Telegram Messenger (in case you use it And seek for quick help)


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Gents !

Couldn't rest enough so i googled and i think this maybe the beginning of a solution https://www.codeweavers.com/support/wiki/linux/linuxtutorial/unsupported_install_file

Will try it myself and see how it works and if it does the Affinity Serif registration very well, this is important thing to not forget.
In case i have enough time during the week, i will make a video tuto how to install affinity product (you choose which one) from start to end then see how to publish.
But i know the mentality of Linux users (as one of them) i will only make it available online and here if crossover makes it possible for a user to properly register his product with an official serial.

CrossOver cost is USD9.95 as a 1 TIME PURCHASE for a standard licence if you love Linux and Love Affinity (if it does work) then you should consider to Pay !

Blessings !

 

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21 hours ago, toltec said:

Linux = Pain 

Linux = Frustration

Still, some people like that sort of thing ... :S

Some years ago, I gave Linux a go and that was exactly my feeling. I couldn't even get wifi to work.

Now, anno 2018, I'm a big fan.

I installed Ubuntu Studio on several HP Probook laptops, it takes about 15 minutes, and everything works out of the box. Studio comes with all the typical open source graphical programmes pre installed (The Gimp, Darktable, RawTherapee etc). And many others.

Rather than cursing it, you should give it a try.


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@Lefteyeshooter Your Mamiya takes me back, I learned photography on a Mamiya 645 Super, it was so cool.


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58 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

@Lefteyeshooter Your Mamiya takes me back, I learned photography on a Mamiya 645 Super, it was so cool.

My very first camera ever, got it when I was 12, was a Mamiya EF135 'point and shooter'. I still have it. Great lens (35mm f2.8). It still works fine, except for the flash that drains the battery. Zone focus works well (if I don't forget). The mamiya C220 is quite different, fully mechanical, I need a lightmeter app (or the sunny 16 rule) to use it.

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1 hour ago, Lefteyeshooter said:

Rather than cursing it, you should give it a try.

I have tried, several times.

With help from a Linux enthusiast, about ten years back, I got Mint to work on a couple of PCs. Tried to get it to work with my printers. = Lots of pain and frustration. Tried to get it to work with a card to run CCTV cameras = lots of pain and frustration but did work on the internet.

About 2 years back I did install Mint as a dual boot system on a laptop for my daughter. No pain, still working !

About 6 months back I tried to install Linux on a decent spec PC for a mate. = hours of pain and frustration. Would not run due to Nvidia card. Tried another distro, = more pain and frustration, tried Ubuntu, got it to work (mostly) but wi-fi wouldn't. That was not a huge issue as we just ran a long cable and plugged it in. = small pain.

Over that 10 year period, I have bought, used and upgraded a dozen Windows PCs (mostly for full time professional use) and each one was literally plug and play and has given no trouble since. I gave the PCs they replaced to a local charity where they are still running Win 7 perfectly.

I don't like Windows 10 much but have 4 varied machines, including a brand new Acer laptop/tablet thing (which runs the full version of Affinity) running it. Each one worked out of the box and runs MS Office, Affinity etc perfectly and each one connected to my old printers (which Linux still can't) perfectly (plug and play). = No pain.

So why should I try yet another Linux distro that I know won't work on my printers and won't run Microsoft office (I need MS Access and Powerpoint) or Affinity?

Why are you trying to inflict all that pain on me, what have I ever done to you ;).

P.S. And what are you using to run your copies of Affinity software ? xD


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4 minutes ago, toltec said:

P.S. And what are you using to run your copies of Affinity software ? xD

I used RawTherapee most of the time on Ubuntu. The Gimp when I need layers. On my windows pc, I use Affinity...

I have no experience with printing from my Linux machine. A friend of mine does print from Linux, but he bought a dedicated linux driver for his canon printer .


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13 minutes ago, toltec said:

which runs the full version of Affinity

shouldn't this also be a link back to your review ;)


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7 minutes ago, Lefteyeshooter said:

I used RawTherapee most of the time on Ubuntu. The Gimp when I need layers. On my windows pc, I use Affinity...

I have no experience with printing from my Linux machine. A friend of mine does print from Linux, but he bought a dedicated linux driver for his canon printer .

The point is, I can do all of that on one fast Windows machine that acts as a tablet, a laptop or a desktop (if plugged in to a monitor etc)

It was completely plug and play and it runs the full version of Affinity.

 


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1 hour ago, Uncle Mez said:

Couldn't rest enough so i googled and i think this maybe the beginning of a solution

Have you seen these two compatibility pages?
https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/affinity-photo
https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/affinity-designer

From this page I learned that CrossOver is a commercialized version of Wine, & that in their words "Wine runs some Windows applications well, some so-so, and some not at all." According to Code Weavers, the most likely reason for the 1 star 'will not install' issue is the app uses a non-standard installer, whatever that means. :S


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2 hours ago, Lefteyeshooter said:

I used RawTherapee most of the time on Ubuntu. The Gimp when I need layers. On my windows pc, I use Affinity...

I have no experience with printing from my Linux machine. A friend of mine does print from Linux, but he bought a dedicated linux driver for his canon printer .

My HP Deskjet prints just fine and very easily from linux. I didn't even have to run the 16' cable that I bought just to install it in windows. Yes...talk about bad design, you have to hook up the cable to enable wifi printing in Windows with this particular HP deskjet. With Kubuntu, it said "HP Deskjet 3050, want to use this as your default printer?" Even after I replaced our modem and router, it was as simple as changing the IP address to point to the new destination, something that would have required me hooking up the usb cable again in linux. 

Things have come a long way with linux. I'm not saying there still aren't pain points. I also know each person's experience varies. However, I've been working with linux full-time (no windows at all) for over a month, and the only thing I'm missing is Affinity. I can do all of my development (easier, faster), security (easier, faster, better tools), writing (no change), and other jobs with no problem. Even my backup program (Jotta Cloud) has a linux version, and google backup and sync doesn't have that. Even my wireless headphones and mic worked perfectly, no setup. Just turned it on and the tunes came out.

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3 hours ago, who8mypnuts said:

Things have come a long way with linux.

For young people and those on a tight budget (who's not?), Linux offers lots of "bangs for bucks".


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1 hour ago, Lefteyeshooter said:

For young people and those on a tight budget (who's not?), Linux offers lots of "bangs for bucks".

For techno savvy young people, yes, maybe, but it depends on who has to fix it if it breaks down?. 

For any professional user or designer, I would say that that sort of penny pinching is a false economy.

The hours I have wasted on Linux easily covers the cost of buying a 'big' PC. What's more, if my PC goes wrong, one phone call and an engineer calls round to my house to fix it or replace it (for three years). On a Linux machine, a breakdown could mean hours or days of grief, with a customer screaming down the phone. Some things are worth paying for!


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The infamous (forced) updates for Win10 like the most recent one, the massive (data losing) disaster, the dump-fire which the October 2018 update for Windows 10 was and is, is one of many reasons why many are looking more fondly at Linux. :10_wink:


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Just now, myclay said:

The infamous (forced) updates for Win10 like the most recent one, the massive (data losing) disaster, the dump-fire which the October 2018 update for Windows 10 was and is, is one of many reasons why many are looking more fondly at Linux. :10_wink:

Exactly. Plus, Microsoft is raising the price of office this year and is kicking around the idea of a monthly fee for Windows...all of which inclined me to ween myself off of all office products (which I did over 4 months) and then ditch Windows completely. 

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The idea that it is 'too hard' to make software for Linux nowadays is pure BS.  There is something else going on behind the scenes.  Maybe they're being paid not to !!

The idea that Linux is a whole heap of pain and frustration is also pretty much pure BS except in the case of extremely new concept hardware or specialist / rarer hardware.  In mainstream hardware and older hardware there is very little issue.

I have almost been exclusively using Linux for a decade.  Some programs are impossible to replace of course but things are getting better by the day.  I do agree that special software will not be available for Linux in my lifetime I suspect.  I also have a conspiracy theory that there is a 'go slow' button being pressed in the case of LibreOffice / OpenOffice and also GIMP.  I think it took GIMP 15 years to get to the point of having more than 8 bits per channel !!  These two software providers need to do some crowdfunding or something.  Just doing the basics right should be a priority rather than trying to half-implement some feature or other (go deep not wide to start out with ...)

In the case of Affinity it is a policy not a particularly difficult technical mountain that is stopping production.

Just my  2 cents ...

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On 11/12/2018 at 4:49 AM, swmcl-affinity said:

The idea that it is 'too hard' to make software for Linux nowadays is pure BS.  There is something else going on behind the scenes.  Maybe they're being paid not to !!

The idea that Linux is a whole heap of pain and frustration is also pretty much pure BS except in the case of extremely new concept hardware or specialist / rarer hardware.  In mainstream hardware and older hardware there is very little issue.

I have almost been exclusively using Linux for a decade.  Some programs are impossible to replace of course but things are getting better by the day.  I do agree that special software will not be available for Linux in my lifetime I suspect.  I also have a conspiracy theory that there is a 'go slow' button being pressed in the case of LibreOffice / OpenOffice and also GIMP.  I think it took GIMP 15 years to get to the point of having more than 8 bits per channel !!  These two software providers need to do some crowdfunding or something.  Just doing the basics right should be a priority rather than trying to half-implement some feature or other (go deep not wide to start out with ...)

In the case of Affinity it is a policy not a particularly difficult technical mountain that is stopping production.

Just my  2 cents ...4

Why should Serif make a Linux version of their Affinity Suite? 

No one in Linux world would ever pay for software, and, nobody wants to work for free...

As I still can see, you still not have bought Affinity Photo for Windows for your Win-PC after six month here with questions about AP...

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On 11/10/2018 at 5:58 AM, toltec said:

I use Linux.

Your posts really show that you don't use it, if anything. Or really don't understand it.

On 11/9/2018 at 4:51 PM, Pšenda said:

So why do not develop your own APh / ADe / APub? It will surely be a easy for you.

He's right. Something built with cross platform framework is very easy to port. The only difficulties in most software is the user interface issues itself. Which are ruled out using things like Qt.

On 11/9/2018 at 6:53 PM, Uncle Mez said:

I've found that Canonical the company behind Ubuntu offers a possibility to Snap a software to make it work on any Linux distro.
Here a link i've found that may help https://docs.snapcraft.io/creating-a-snap/6799

Maybe one day Serif will think about and consider the move, Gravit and many apps that you can see on the Snap center are working very well so why not Affinity Product Line but as i said ... maybe one day. 

This is a good example, the most relevant post in the thread that was completely ignored. Because nobody understands it. Porting our company's 20 year old $300,000 custom soil microbe analyzing software took a weekend, after 3 years of trying to get the source. Giving a community who wants to do the work for you, for free the tools they need is important. Last year shows it, AMD driver in the linux kernel went from barely existing to the most seamless and error free driver experience that exists on any operating system, ever. Today there is no better graphics experience than that specifically.

On 11/11/2018 at 2:22 AM, Lefteyeshooter said:

Some years ago, I gave Linux a go and that was exactly my feeling. I couldn't even get wifi to work.

Now, anno 2018, I'm a big fan.

I installed Ubuntu Studio on several HP Probook laptops, it takes about 15 minutes, and everything works out of the box. Studio comes with all the typical open source graphical programmes pre installed (The Gimp, Darktable, RawTherapee etc). And many others.

Rather than cursing it, you should give it a try.

That's more related to the chipset vendor used than it is the date. There are still plenty of locked chipsets. Ironically the best IEEE 802.11 chipsets are all open.

On 11/10/2018 at 2:12 PM, Uncle Mez said:

I invite you to try KDE Neon if you don't mind. It's Ubuntu Based and workS very well also it doesn't come tOne of stuffs you may not need at all, just the necessary from there You may experience something even new.

I love Mint but ... It's Not what I would recommend these days, better go lightweight stuff that uses less Computer Resources.

Happy to know you do Linux

KDE is a desktop environment. Completely unrelated to linux and not at all Ubuntu based. On any "linux distro" you have the GNU tools, and you can install any tools you want, including any desktop environment.

On 11/9/2018 at 6:29 PM, R C-R said:

A better question is, if it is really true that "good code design" is all it takes to make it easy to port a full-featured graphics app to other operating systems, then why hasn't Adobe done this to port its own products to Linux? :35_thinking:


They did, and dropped support quickly after due to too many bugs. adobe is bloated on top of bloat, trying to backwards compatibility for standards their own developers hate:

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/05/some_thoughts_about_the_psd_format.html

Now when you pay people who hate what they do, they don't do good jobs. My entire company has to use random versions of adobe illustrator because it crashes on random computers with random hardware. All of them are different. Some computers have the exact same hardware and most updated version of windows and have DIFFERENT versions of adobe CC so they don't crash. There's no consistency with adobe nor windows. I sure wish I was dealing with "the same exact issue" every time.

There's even a bug where if you don't have a printer connected, illustrator crashes on startup. Google it. It's pathetic.

On 5/10/2019 at 9:42 PM, ErrkaPetti said:

No one in Linux world would ever pay for software, and, nobody wants to work for free...

Had to register to reply to you, and specifically your disgusting post. Linux and open source users have been proven to be the highest paying customers on "pay what you want"  model of software, even though it started with music. Since then steam, humble bundle, poe, bomb music, pronhub, headsets dot com, radiohead, canonical softwares, and all other donationwares that willingly post statistics of their sales have shown Linux users will not only use products more but pay more for them when they are good.

Nothing is more valuable than your time, and software developers who devote all of their free time have no problem spending money on good products. The entire internet and video stacks are all free software. ffmpeg, http, TCP/IP, POP3, SMTP, (email), web browsers, chromium (chrome, iridium, chromium, vivaldi, opera, edge), firefox (and it's 300 forks as well), Xen, KVM, qemu, are all free time projects from "nobody wanting to work for free", working for free. It isn't always work, some people enjoy software development...

Adobe does not provide good products and never has.

 

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12 minutes ago, greenman said:

Adobe does not provide good products and never has.

Adobe's products have some downsides, but if overall they were not widely considers to be good products then they would not dominate the graphics software market, which they very clearly do.


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11 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Adobe's products have some downsides, but if overall they were not widely considers to be good products then they would not dominate the graphics software market, which they very clearly do. 

No, they aren't good products. They're the only products that do certain things they do.

Inkscape currently is 20 times faster, about on par with affinity, has a lot of the features. "A lot of" isn't enough, though. Shortly affinity designer will overtake it with many features as it continues to compete with illustrator directly.

Before you respond to this, I'd suggest you read their own blog page I linked, by their ex project manager, because nobody, not even adobe, thinks their products are good.

Just because something or someone does things something or someone does not, doesn't make them good.

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22 minutes ago, greenman said:

Before you respond to this, I'd suggest you read their own blog page I linked, by their ex project manager, because nobody, not even adobe, thinks their products are good.

I did read the John Nack blog post you linked to, but nowhere in it did find anything suggesting he or other Adobe employees think the products Adobe makes are not good ones. The most detrimental thing he said was that they are "not perfect," but that is a very long way from claiming that they are not good.

More to the point, the comments on that blog page make it clear that your 'nobody thinks it is good' claim is unrealistic, as would an unbiased search of the web for opinions on that matter, as would even a search just confined to user comments in these forums.


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