GeoffM33 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 How about keyboard shortcuts which you can allocate to paragraph and character styles? That way you can rattle through a long copy document and style it up without constant mousing. InDesign and Quark had this from early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Publisher already has this. They are set up via the Text Styles panel rather than Preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffM33 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 Doh! There it was, staring me right in the face. Lesson learnt! Time for computing's last resort - read the flippin' manual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 hours ago, GeoffM33 said: Doh! There it was, staring me right in the face. Lesson learnt! Time for computing's last resort - read the flippin' manual... I believe the F in "RTFM" stands for Fine not 'flipping''. a petty quibble I know. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I believe the F in "RTFM" stands for Fine not 'flipping''. a petty quibble I know. But Geoff’s version is much funnier. Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.5.5. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I believe the F in "RTFM" stands for Fine not 'flipping''. a petty quibble I know. That's the clean version of that initialism, certainly. The "official" version is somewhat more earthy than "flippin" (but I agree that for a printed book, flippin' is nice).Wikipedia's version of RTFM (which matches how I learned it) (NSFW, perhaps) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 So NSFW must mean New South Flipping Wales? [smiley-face emoticon] walt.farrell 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralf blankenburg Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 but how does it work, i know this function also from the indesign, you can give an example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffM33 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 If you have a long document, like a brochure or manual, say, it will probably have several levels of information in it. And these will repeat page after page, chapter after chapter. To manually mouse/click each of these as you go through the document styling it up would take ages. You've probably imported it from a client's Word file so it won't look the way you want it. So, you establish your styles on the first page or two, and give each one a keyboard short-cut. It might go: Chapter heading, main heading, sub heading, text stand-first, body text, bullet point and so on. Place your text cursor in the first heading, hit the command for its style and it will be applied to that paragraph. If the document is mostly in long linked text chains you can use keyboard navigation to move to the next heading, or paragraph and hit the command for the style you want (yes, you do have to memorise the shortcuts but there shouldn't be too many) then move to the next and so on. This way you can style a long document very quickly just with the keyboard and with very little mouse work. However, I have not found a keyboard command to jump between paragraphs. Maybe a custom command needs to be made. It would be good if there was a ready-made cursor command for this in the default set. Is this what you meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Another option is to use shortcut and the option you can find when right-clicking on paragraph style: "Apply style_xxx then next styles". Before applying "next styles", you need to set them in the Paragraph style options. Once done, you only need to know main shortcuts. In the example above, you can apply style (1), and select all the text and use "Apply style_1 and next styles" (styles 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will be aplied to the text). Next step, you select the appropriate paragraphs and use the shortcuts to apply styles (a) and (b). This way, you only need to know shortcuts for styles 1, a, and b. Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Wosven said: Another option is to use shortcut and the option you can find when right-clicking on paragraph style: "Apply style_xxx then next styles". Before applying "next styles", you need to set them in the Paragraph style options. Once done, you only need to know main shortcuts. In the example above, you can apply style (1), and select all the text and use "Apply style_1 and next styles" (styles 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will be aplied to the text). Next step, you select the appropriate paragraphs and use the shortcuts to apply styles (a) and (b). This way, you only need to know shortcuts for styles 1, a, and b. As the kids say oh em jee. Wow. That is just... I am with out words. [big-happy-smiley-face emoticon] I have never used this before, Massive time saver that I missed. Thank you. [big-happy-smiley-face emoticon] Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Wait… Now, imagine we can have some "Text Frame Styles", with 2 options: Apply text styles And next styles (only available if first one is checked) You'll only need to create text frames, and (re)apply some Text Frame Styles (for example here: Biography, Exergue violet, Text box orange, Main text…) : the paragraph styles will apply automagically and you''ll only have to care for details (sub heading, emphasis, byline…) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffM33 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Wosven said: Another option is to use shortcut and the option you can find when right-clicking on paragraph style: "Apply style_xxx then next styles". Before applying "next styles", you need to set them in the Paragraph style options. Once done, you only need to know main shortcuts. In the example above, you can apply style (1), and select all the text and use "Apply style_1 and next styles" (styles 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will be aplied to the text). Next step, you select the appropriate paragraphs and use the shortcuts to apply styles (a) and (b). This way, you only need to know shortcuts for styles 1, a, and b. 5 hours ago, Wosven said: Wait… Now, imagine we can have some "Text Frame Styles", with 2 options: Apply text styles And next styles (only available if first one is checked) You'll only need to create text frames, and (re)apply some Text Frame Styles (for example here: Biography, Exergue violet, Text box orange, Main text…) : the paragraph styles will apply automagically and you''ll only have to care for details (sub heading, emphasis, byline…) Excellent! It also works if you select the text box with the move tool and right click "Apply style_1 and next styles". We don't yet have text box and picture box styles, but a styled text box can be stored in the Assets pane, but it doesn't work as well as your suggestion. Wosven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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