andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Hello everybody, I would like to submit a bug that is related to Symbols feature. I use Symbols a lot in my project and sometimes I have symbol in symbol in symbol :) The problem is that the symbol are disappearing from instances. Steps to Reproduce. 0. Start AD create new document 1. Create rectangle make it a symbol (Create button) 2. Create circle make it another symbol (Create button) 3. Now in the layer panels put one circle symbol inside rectangle symbol (Sync enabled). 4. Notice Symbols window doesn't update symbol view. 5. Create new rectangle symbol instance to see there is no circle in it 6. Now click at the circle symbol instance (which is inside the rectangle symbol instance) and right-click -> duplicate 7. Notice circle appear in the both rectangle symbol instances and also in the Symbol window Variation 1: 8. Now delete one of the instances circle symbol instances (there are two) in the rectangle instance 9. Notice both circle instances will disappear also from all rectangle symbol instances. Variation 2: 8. Click on the one of the circle symbol instances which are in the rectangle symbol instance and hit "Detach" 9. Delete this new object which is not a symbol anymore 10. Notice remaining circle symbol instance stays intact. If you would like to make me a video let me know. There are also some other situations when the symbol in symbols disappears but I am not yet sure when it happens, but I guess it is the same problem. Good luck :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highvoltage Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Can confirm. Recreated this an all variations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 Hey andrej7, Thanks for this. I think we've got a few bugs from this. The steps you provided were spot on and very much appreciated. Could we have a video for the Variation 2 issue please?Cheers :) How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 "You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file" .. video is ready but I don't know how to upload it. it's 6 MB mp4 .. If you give me your email I could send it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 You should be able to zip it up and then attach it :)If that doesn't work you can use this link:https://www.dropbox.com/request/I7oTgkM8qx5uvKblPOs8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 .. so .. the video shows both cases .. the variation 2 is actually a walkaround .. I had to make like 5 takes of the video since every little change in the process can trigger a different outcome still a bug but I wanted to show off exactly what I was writing about. If you will want some more help let me know. 2016-10-24_15-44-24.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 Got ya! In that case it's all been logged with development now :) Thanks for letting us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 I use Symbols a lot .. I'll give you some examples .. I have a logo I have a logo with text (company name) I have a logo with shadow I have a logo as an icon (with some filtering) and each of these variations are used across webdesign artboard, app GUI artboard, brand artboard, logo evolution artboard .. many many times with different sizes. When I decide I want to tweak the logo I want it to update in each instance and each symbol. When I decide I want to change the shadow .. I want it to update on all symbols that use that symbol too. When I decide to put some fancy effect over logo I want it to update in all instances all symbols that use this symbol and all those instances. So Symbols for me have a huge production value and saves time tremendously. So hope you guys will get it together and maybe extend this feature more to have even more control and insight into symbols where they are and able to manipulate/select them at once. Also it would be great I you could also change or somehow update unlinked attributes of the symbols like transformation size so I will don't have to resize each instance just because I created symbol with a bad size. I cannot wait until you get this windows version done so I can purchase it. Amazing work guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highvoltage Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Also it would be great I you could also change or somehow update unlinked attributes of the symbols like transformation size so I will don't have to resize each instance just because I created symbol with a bad size. You can resize a symbol now, you just have to click and edit INSIDE the symbol group, otherwise you just transform the container. So double click to get inside, and then transform, or use the layers panel. BUT there is a LOT of bugs with symbols updating and sometimes parts get desynced after a load, and i never pressed the sync button.... and the list goes on. the best solution would be to have a dedicated button on each layer, or at the context toolbar, where you can individually turn ON and OFF if the current element is synced or not. That way you could even turn Sync back on individual elements if you previously made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Oh, I didn't know that. Good to know, thank you! Can you please elaborate on how the sync button should be used ? Why should I turn the sync off ? What's the point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 Hi andrej7, Welcome to Affinity Forums :) You may want for example change the fill colour (or any other attribute) of one (of the objects) of the symbols but keep all the other attributes still linked/synchronised. To achieve this, select the specific instance you want to change, turn sync off, change the fill colour of the object you want inside the symbol layer of that instance, then turn sync on again. You can then continue updating all the remaining instances of that symbol on the document as usual and all attributes of the object you changed will be synchronised except the fill colour which is not syncronized anymore. A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 .. so this way you can select which attributes will be unlinked ? .. and what If you want it back to be linked again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highvoltage Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 .. and what If you want it back to be linked again ? Then you start to cry. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 Yes, attributes you change while sync is turned off will not be linked to the symbol anymore. Currently there's no way to re-sync them again. A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 Then you start to cry. :D Or drag another instance of the Symbol from the Symbols panel, unless you have changed/detached a couple of attributes and want to re-sync just part of them while leaving others detached... :ph34r: A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrej7 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 .. so it might be cool to have better control over this. Like list of unlinked attributes where you can add/remove items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 24, 2016 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2016 The Symbols feature was introduced in version 1.5. There's still a few issues to iron out and things that could be improved. Feel free to create a thread in the Feature Requests section if you find this important for you. A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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