Cmd+Return shortcut broken (regression)

[MikeTO]

I use Cmd+Return for page break and Shift+Cmd+Return for column break which are the Apple and Microsoft standard for these commands. These shortcuts work properly in 2.5..7 and in 1.10.x but they don't work in the 2.6 beta. I’m unsure which build broke them but pressing these shortcuts now has no effect, regardless of what Text menu command I assign them to.

It would also be nice if these shortcuts were set by default. They're not used for anything else  and it would be nice to have default shortcuts for these commonly-used commands. InDesign uses the standard Cmd+Return for page break but unmodified keypad Enter for column break, I believe because Quark worked that way.

[carl123]

Possibly related to this change in the latest beta:

"Allow CMD+Return to commit text input and switch to Move Tool

CMD+Enter / Ctrl+Enter can now be used when actively editing text to "commit" the text input and switch to the selection tool, similar to other creative software. Any shortcut bound to this key combination (by default, Convert to Curves) will only be actioned when the user is not currently editing text input."

[MikeTO]

45 minutes ago, carl123 said:

Possibly related to this change in the latest beta:

"Allow CMD+Return to commit text input and switch to Move Tool

CMD+Enter / Ctrl+Enter can now be used when actively editing text to "commit" the text input and switch to the selection tool, similar to other creative software. Any shortcut bound to this key combination (by default, Convert to Curves) will only be actioned when the user is not currently editing text input."

Thanks for pointing this out, I hadn't seen that.

Perhaps Serif could choose a different shortcut to commit text and switch to the Move tool because it has broken the page break shortcut used by almost every word processor and page layout app for the last 40 years, including Microsoft Word, LibreOffice, Google Docs, Pages, MacWrite, WordStar, WordPerfect, Quark, InDesign, PageMaker, Ventura Publisher, etc. PagePlus uses these shortcuts, too, but swapped them so Ctrl+Enter is for column break and Shift+Ctrl+Return for page break.

I've been pressing Cmd+Enter without having to think about it for all of these 40 years so this will be a difficult change for me. I doubt I'm the only one who is going to complain about this. The only reason I didn't notice it before is I've been waiting for 2.6 to settle down before moving my documents over to it.

Thanks

[MikeTO]

Sorry if I expressed myself too much, I just feel strongly about this shortcut. I often use this shortcut many times a day as I edit copy.

[walt.farrell]

9 hours ago, MikeTO said:

Perhaps Serif could choose a different shortcut to commit text and switch to the Move tool because it has broken the page break shortcut used by almost every word processor and page layout app for the last 40 years,

From other posts over the years by users (and presumably the reason that Serif chose to make this change) I've always had the impression that InDesign and other Adobe apps used Cmd+Enter as a "commit" function, and thus Serif was switching to the "standard" set by other applications to avoid user confusion.

 

[James Ritson]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

From other posts over the years by users (and presumably the reason that Serif chose to make this change) I've always had the impression that InDesign and other Adobe apps used Cmd+Enter as a "commit" function, and thus Serif was switching to the "standard" set by other applications to avoid user confusion.

 

Photoshop and Illustrator both use CMD+Enter/Return to commit text input, InDesign brings up a feature called Quick Apply I think (so it doesn't do a page break, at least not by default). The issue was that users were attempting this CMD+Enter shortcut in Affinity and finding that it converted their text to curves, so the fix was to implement a separate behaviour that exits text input and switches to the Move Tool (similar to the aforementioned apps). This was considered a reasonable solution as it would only override the CMD+Enter mapping when the user was actively in text input, so they could bind that shortcut to something else and use it freely for any other area of the app.

However, it sounds like there may need to be some consideration for how a custom shortcut mapping would work within an active text input mode, as it could interfere with other desirable functions like @MikeTO has mentioned.

 

[MikeTO]

26 minutes ago, James Ritson said:

Photoshop and Illustrator both use CMD+Enter/Return to commit text input, InDesign brings up a feature called Quick Apply I think (so it doesn't do a page break, at least not by default). The issue was that users were attempting this CMD+Enter shortcut in Affinity and finding that it converted their text to curves, so the fix was to implement a separate behaviour that exits text input and switches to the Move Tool (similar to the aforementioned apps). This was considered a reasonable solution as it would only override the CMD+Enter mapping when the user was actively in text input, so they could bind that shortcut to something else and use it freely for any other area of the app.

However, it sounds like there may need to be some consideration for how a custom shortcut mapping would work within an active text input mode, as it could interfere with other desirable functions like @MikeTO has mentioned.

Thank you. I did a bit more googling and I believe ID might now use:

• Page Break: Cmd+numpad Enter
• Quick Apply: Cmd+Return (not numpad)

But users can swap them or use what they want because neither shortcut is hardcoded.

I tried it in the current Publisher beta and all combinations of either key with Cmd are hardcoded to commit. If the shortcut for commit was added to Settings > Shortcuts > Publisher > Text Input and the defaults were set similar to Adobe, then we'd be able to swap them if we wanted.

However, the Text Input shortcuts can't be modified in the Windows version.

 

[MikeTO]

I noticed in the new beta that I can use Shift+Cmd+Return again as a shortcut, so thank you if you changed something.

For others reading this, I tried all the combinations and it appears that Option+Return and Ctrl+Return are also usable shortcuts now. I can't recall if these worked in the previous beta. But Cmd+Return, Cmd+Ctrl+Return, and Cmd+Opt+Return aren't usable.

[James Ritson]

On 2/2/2025 at 7:45 PM, MikeTO said:

I noticed in the new beta that I can use Shift+Cmd+Return again as a shortcut, so thank you if you changed something.

For others reading this, I tried all the combinations and it appears that Option+Return and Ctrl+Return are also usable shortcuts now. I can't recall if these worked in the previous beta. But Cmd+Return, Cmd+Ctrl+Return, and Cmd+Opt+Return aren't usable.

Hi @MikeTO, thanks for the information, in the newest build (3106) I believe I've fixed it so you can now use CMD+[Additional modifier/s]+Return. If you could confirm this is working for you, I'd appreciate it!

[MikeTO]

1 hour ago, James Ritson said:

Hi @MikeTO, thanks for the information, in the newest build (3106) I believe I've fixed it so you can now use CMD+[Additional modifier/s]+Return. If you could confirm this is working for you, I'd appreciate it!

Hi James, I've confirmed Cmd+Enter+any modifier works. Thank you!