joe_l Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Reported before? I have to admit, that I do not use the Area Tool, but there is room for a small improvment IMO. Imagine two elements that you want to measure, none of them selected. 1. Pick the Area Tool and click one element and you get your measurement values. 2. Now try to click the second element with the Area Tool ... ... ... not working. The first element stays selected. To get the measurement of the second element you have to e.g. change to the Move Tool and then back to the Area Tool to measure the second element. Two actions too much. Quote ---------- Windows 10 / 11, Complete Suite Retail and Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ash Posted November 9, 2023 Staff Share Posted November 9, 2023 You can hold cmd to select different objects in the area tool. Shift + cmd will add additional objects to your current selection. ronnyb and joe_l 1 1 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 17 hours ago, Ash said: You can hold cmd to select different objects in the area tool. Shift + cmd will add additional objects to your current selection. It's a shame that nothing like that is written in Help. Although the possibility of measuring multiple objects is discussed here, how to select them is not. https://affinity.help/designer2/English.lproj/pages/Tools/tools_area.html Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, Pšenda said: Although the possibility of measuring multiple objects is discussed here, how to select them is not. https://affinity.help/designer2/English.lproj/index.html It would help to have a pointer to the relevant Help page, rather than the index. You can right-click on a link to the topic to get the right URL. The Measuring topic (https://affinity.help/designer2/English.lproj/pages/DesignAids/measuring.html) mentions how to select them, but it's a bit vague. (Watching the Status Bar helps.) The Area Tool topic (https://affinity.help/designer2/English.lproj/pages/Tools/tools_area.html) says to select them, but doesn't say how. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 14 hours ago, walt.farrell said: It would help to have a pointer to the relevant Help page, rather than the index. Of course, I usually do it that way, but sometimes the force of habit - that is, the completely common and standard procedure of copying the address from the address bar, unfortunately overcomes the senseless necessity of copying the link via some button at the very bottom of the page, which is usually not even visible. walt.farrell 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted November 10, 2023 Staff Share Posted November 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Pšenda said: It's a shame that nothing like that is written in Help. Although the possibility of measuring multiple objects is discussed here, how to select them is not. I'm getting this logged with the help team now - the 'Measuring' page does include this modifier under the house plan image, but I agree it could certainly be clearer. Equally, the Area Tool and Measure Tool pages should have these modifiers listed. 26 minutes ago, Pšenda said: the completely common and standard procedure of copying the address from the address bar, unfortunately overcomes the senseless necessity of copying the link via some button at the very bottom of the page, which is usually not even visible I believe this is already logged with our help team to be improved in the future - as I personally understand it can be frustrating for the URL directly not to update with the page currently being viewed. I'll be sure to 'bump' this log for you now to bring it to their attention once again ronnyb, Pšenda and walt.farrell 1 2 Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Dan C said: Equally, the Area Tool and Measure Tool pages should have these modifiers listed. It is clear that the quality and complexity of the Help can be improved endlessly (thanks to the work on it and its visible improvement), but for example, in the linked page about Measurement, where the main tools Measure and Area tool and its specific functions (perimeter mode, cusped segment) are mentioned, there is no direct link to the description of these tools - that's a shame, it would make working with Help easier. Perhaps it would also be appropriate if the introduction of these terms/tool names (today only in bold) be a direct link to a page that describes them in detail. Dan C 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted November 10, 2023 Staff Share Posted November 10, 2023 No problem at all! 1 hour ago, Pšenda said: Perhaps it would also be appropriate if the introduction of these terms/tool names (today only in bold) be a direct link to a page that describes them in detail. I agree, I must say I'm surprised that these Tools aren't directly linked within this page already - either throughout the Help body itself or as part of the 'See Also' section, so I've included this improvement request within the Help File bug report Pšenda and ronnyb 1 1 Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted November 10, 2023 Staff Share Posted November 10, 2023 The issue "Area and Measuring Tool pages don't clearly cover modifier keys for multi-selections" (REF: HELP-96) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.3.x". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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