Should be simple but I can't make it work…

[laurent32]

Hi all,

On a new document, I create a master page.

On that master page I create 2 text blocks.

I link both of them.

I go on my first page, I apply the master page that I created just before

I insert some long text.

I wanted publisher to automatically create all the pages needed to get all my text visible.

I doesn't.

My text goes from block 1 of page 1 to block 2 of page 1 then nothing…

What have I missed ?

[thomaso]

To autoflow text: Shift-click the overflow icon at the right edge of the overflowing text frame. New pages and text frames get created until text overflow no longer occurs.

[PaulEC]

[laurent32]

Thanks for your answers.

Well it doesn't work for me, here are my files if you want to see for yourselves.

Ì don't understand why ?

 

test link.afpub sample text.txt

[carl123]

Works OK here.

The text flows onto the next page just fine with the shift and click action

[laurent32]

@carl123

Are you on Mac with Publisher2.1.1 ?

[carl123]

No, I'm on Windows 11

Publisher 2.1.1

[laurent32]

Well I'll have to wait until some macOS people come in… and maybe with macOS Ventura and Publisher 2.1.1…

Thanks for testing @carl123

3 hours ago, thomaso said:

To autoflow text: Shift-click the overflow icon at the right edge of the overflowing text frame. New pages and text frames get created until text overflow no longer occurs

I wish it did… on version 2.1.1…

[thomaso]

2 minutes ago, laurent32 said:

with macOS Ventura

Does it mean it works on your Air / macOS Big Sur?

[laurent32]

Fiew months ago I had to reset to zero that MacBook Air computer, and I did not install the Affinity Suite on it so I can't tell.

 

[Old Bruce]

4 hours ago, laurent32 said:

On a new document, I create a master page.

On that master page I create 2 text blocks.

 

... ....

 

My text goes from block 1 of page 1 to block 2 of page 1 then nothing…

What have I missed ?

You have a Single page Master applied to a Facing pages Spread. You need a Master Page that is a Facing Pages Spread. Try this, I made a pair, one with text on all pages and one with text on the Right page only.

test link Facing pages.afpub

[laurent32]

Thanks @Old Bruce !

It is true I'm used to working with facing pages and for this last document I forgot to un-tick facing pages…

I'm not sure why, if you create a facing pages document, you are enable to create single page masters ?

Maybe master pages and pages are 2 separate things that can live side by side without consequences.

Maybe this has to do with sections ? In one same global document, some may be single pages and some may be facing pages ?

[thomaso]

20 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

You have a Single page Master applied to a Facing pages Spread. You need a Master Page that is a Facing Pages Spread.

Without being able to test V2: what makes you think so? It should even work without using any master at all, – right?
Here I don't see a reason why a single master page should not work for text auto-flow in a facing page document. For instance in this V1 sample the single master gets auto-used as left and right page:

[laurent32]

Interesting…

But on your second "shift-click" it create page 3 and it is empty ???

If you "shift-click" on page 3, does it create page 4 with text ? I guess not…

Edit : Some re-wording…

[Old Bruce]

8 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Here I don't see a reason why a single master page should not work for text auto-flow in a facing page document.

The Text Frames on the Left page won't be linked to the Text Frames on the Right Page.

[v_kyr]

11 minutes ago, laurent32 said:

But on your second "shit-click" it create

LOL I like that one, I've to remember that wording, for curses and the like when some mouse click doesn't work or do what is usually expected! 😉

[laurent32]

Sorry @v_kyr, that's Siri's fault !! Let me correct that one right away !

[thomaso]

13 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

The Text Frames on the Left page won't be linked to the Text Frames on the Right Page.

Ah, thank you, I haven't noticed that before. – Now, since a shift-click causes new pages automatically and auto-flow / auto-link works at first from the right page 1 to the left page 2, the missing text frame link feels quite confusing.

If I shift-click multiple times in my sample above on page 2 then every single shift-click auto-creates a new page, multiple, too. Whereas the frame link appears to work reliable only if I shift-click the right pages after manually having created the frame link from its previous left page.

[laurent32]

2 minutes ago, thomaso said:

If I shift-click multiple times in my sample above on page 2 then every single shift-click auto-creates a new page, multiple, too. Whereas the frame link appears to work reliable only if I shift-click the right pages after manually having created the frame link from its previous left page.

Without really going deep into this, I have a feeling that something is not working as it should ?

As if we CAN do something, but IT IS NOT recommended ?

[thomaso]

10 minutes ago, laurent32 said:

Without really going deep into this, I have a feeling that something is not working as it should ?

As if we CAN do something, but IT IS NOT recommended ?

I agree*, it seems to work half way only: It generates a new page … and then quits … and, additionally, although it does work for the first page (pg 1 > 2).
(*while the solution of a facing master page setup is easy to do, the UX with a single-MP setup appears strange)

Do you get the same result in V2: A New page but not linked – or is there a different result between V1 and V2?

[laurent32]

Starting from the affinity file I sent at the beginning, using single page master, going to page 1 and inserting some example txt via the app, I get :

And when I "shift-click", it does nothing, I'm stuck there.

BUT (that's important) when I insert the example text (a long text not immediately generated by the app), that I sent at the beginning, I get this when I "shift-click" :

That is why I was talking about strange behavior…

I guess nothing logical here ??? Something is wrong !

 

[thomaso]

3 minutes ago, laurent32 said:

 inserting some example txt via the app,

That it worked different to me at this step is related to my deactivated app "Preferences" > "General" > "Insert filler text as text". This way a filler text gets auto-expanded if the available space increases (e.g. font size, frame size, …), while if the option is active, an auto-generated filler text doesn't cause a text overflow initially.

[laurent32]

If I tick or un-tick, it's the same for me… ?

[thomaso]

18 minutes ago, laurent32 said:

If I tick or un-tick, it's the same for me… ?

Set it unticked > create a text frame > choose menu "Text" > "Insert filler text". Then increase the text frame by one of its regular handles (not the outer one) / or reduce the font size. With the option unticked it will auto-add more filler text. Additionally you can activate the option menu Text > "Highlight Fields". Then, with Text Tool & Text cursor a right-click offers the pop-up menu option "Expand Field" to turn this filler text to 'plain', non-auto text. https://affinity.help/publisher2/English.lproj/index.html?page=pages/Text/fillerText.html?title=Filler text

[laurent32]

Thanks @thomaso, I can see the difference.