Rallef Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Hi everyone, I just spent half an hour to try and find a way to align text vertically in Publisher (V2.1). Then another half hour to find out about it in help and forums. I bought all of the V1 Progs as soon as they came out, then updated to V2 universal. I'm writing a textbook with many pictures right now and - of course - I use Publisher to "set it up" (is that the correct expression? - I'm German... ;-)) Anyway: I need vertical text on some pages - and I can't find it. That's really disappointing... Is it really true, that a Version 2+ of a Desktop Publishing Software can not do this??? I can't believe it. Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 There may be tricks that would help, but we would need to see an example of what you want to accomplish. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickRose Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Hi @Rallef Is this what you want? If yes, just make the text frame very narrow (1mm or so). ARKITECTONICS 1 Quote Windows 10 Pro, I5 3.3G PC 16G RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Rallef said: Then another half hour to find out about it in help and forums. https://www.google.com/search?q=align+text+vertically+site:https://forum.affinity.serif.com Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, MickRose said: Hi @Rallef Is this what you want? If yes, just make the text frame very narrow (1mm or so). Yes, make sure it is a textframe and play with the textframe options and the character options to set letterspacing/size/leading, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Rallef said: align text vertically I need vertical text These are two pairs of shoes. For vertical text there is indeed no function in Affinity and you would use the mentioned workaround via narrowing the frame or column width. Unfortunately this still can result in unwanted flow of characters and can require manual modification of the text or of local settings for tracking or kerning. Accordingly it works better with monospace fonts and in particular symbolic scripts like Chinese which does not use space characters between words and uses special characters like comma or dot in the same width as other characters. It does not really matter whether you use Paragraph indents or Text Frame insets …: Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallef Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 HI everybody, thank you so much for your answers - I really appreciate it 🙂 Unfortunately it's all about workarounds, so the function I was looking for really does not exist. That's sad, because Corel, Adobe, etc., even Microsoft Publisher can do this, and I just couldn't believe it's missing in Publisher... Anyway: Narrow frames did the job so far, but I'm not happy with it, because I can't find a way to change the vertical letter-spacing (just a little)... Regards Ralf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Rallef said: Anyway: Narrow frames did the job so far, but I'm not happy with it, because I can't find a way to change the vertical letter-spacing (just a little)... You can use the leading override in the character panel for this. Rallef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 22 hours ago, Rallef said: I can't find a way to change the vertical letter-spacing (just a little)... While the mentioned "Leading Override" is a character style that let yiu adjust the leading of single lines you can first set the usual "Leading" in the Paragraph panel. For "little", rather subtle leading enter values with decimals. In the app Preferences > User Interface you can set the number of displayed decimals. In the sample below four paragraphs, each with a different paragraph leading. There "leading override" is still untouched but could be used now for instance to refine the leading for characters that exceed the x-height, e.g. "pl" or "xt" in this sample. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallef Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 Thanks again, you guys are great 🙂 In my case, "Leading override" works perfectly, thank you@Return I think, to use "leading" from paragraph I would need to press "Enter" after each letter, so they are in separate lines? That's not what I want... Have a nice one everybody 🌞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, Rallef said: I think, to use "leading" from paragraph I would need to press "Enter" after each letter, so they are in separate lines? That's not what I want... No, see my screenshot above, with no special character after the letters of each word. A text always must have and has a paragraph leading, even if you set Leading override additionally as character leading. Just try. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I only used a soft return between the separate words. Set leading override per word or the overall text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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