imacken Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I have attached a png file that was produced by Photo from a jpg. Whenever I 'place' this file into a document, Designer will not Export to any of the PDF /X formats, it just sits there 'Calculating....'. The jpg is fine. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted February 26, 2016 Staff Share Posted February 26, 2016 Hi imacken, I'm not able to replicate this. It exports fine in all PDF/X formats for me. Which version of Designer are you using? The Beta or MAS? Have you tried to reset the app pressing and holding ⌃(ctrl) while launching the app the selecting Clear from the dialog that will appear? Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 MEB, try this. 1) Create a new A4 file, then 'Place' the png, then go to 'file/Export/PDF X1-A'and a file size will show OK. So far so good. 2) resize the png to 50mm wide and repeat. Again, the file size shows up OK, and everything is OK. 3) resize the png to 40mm, then you will see that the 'Export' dialogue just permanently says 'Calculating size....' and nothing further happens. No export possible. Happens with the latest beta and the MAS versions. I have files of several layers with that graphic included. The PDF X export always shows this issue, but if I uncheck the graphic, everything is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evtonic3 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Can't you draw it? Seems to be a simple graphic. Just a thought- but you may by now be after the principle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Thanks, but I don't want to draw it, it's the principle of why it Designer is not working. It could happen with more complex drawings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Exact same thing happens with that graphic in Photo as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabtrem Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I went through your instructions and had no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Interesting, this is what I see. The Export dialogue OK when the placed png is set to width 60mm, and then not when reduced to 40mm. Just stays stuck on 'Calculating....'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I got an error too. Not a hang, but an actual error message on failed save attempt. I think there was just something glitchy with that file. I saved it as a jpg again and then back to png (no size change) and it works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 The error you got is because you tried to export it when the dialogue box was still saying 'Calculating....'. What you have done by simply saving as a jpg and then saving again as a png is not the same as what I have done. Take the jpg into Photo, select the 'Flood Select Tool', then uncheck 'contiguous', click on the white background, delete that selection. THEN export to png. Create the A4 document and 'Place' the new png file in, reduce it to 30mm or 40mm width, try to export and you'll get the same problem. If it is the file, then there is something 'glitchy' about Photo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Yes on the "calculating" thing. So I am getting the same result as you are with that png. My new png was/ is on transparent background (attached). (although I did make mine differently.... if that's what you're getting at) "Create the A4 document and 'Place' the new png file in, reduce it to 30mm or 40mm width, try to export" Did all that. Problem with old png. No problem with new png. (for me) Yeah, there's a glitch. Just trying' to figure out where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 For what it is worth, I get the same calculating forever results with the PDF X1-A export preset after resizing the image to 40 mm wide. However, if I rasterize the image before trying to do the export, I don't have any problems. I also noticed that before rasterizing the image, in the export dialog box, just like in imacken's last screen shot, next to the Raster DPI setting, it says "(Nothing will be rasterized)" whereas after rasterizing it says "(Some areas will be rasterized.)" That doesn't make any sense to me since this is a bitmap image, so either way it should be rasterized on export. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 I believe this is a Affinity Photo issue. I have attached a Designer document that hopefully demonstrates the issue clearly. This is what I have done. I took the original jpg file into both Photo and Photoshop, did the same process with each, i.e. removed all white and saved as a 'transparent' png. The png from Photoshop behaves correctly, whereas the one from Photo causes the issue we have been discussing. The attached Designer document is a blank A4 with both the Photo and Photoshop png files 'placed' inside. If you look at the File>Export (PDF/X-1a) dialogue box where it says 'Estimated File Size' under these circumstances, this is what you will see: 1) the file as it is. Everything looks fine, file size is showing as 696k. 2) reduce the width of the Photoshop object to, say, 50mm, and still, everything is OK with the dialogue box saying 519k for the file size. 3) now, reduce the width of the Photo object to 50mm, and you will see that the 'Estimated File Size' box just gets stuck on 'Calculating....'. Clearly, the issue is with the file exported by Photo. If you hide the 'retro mother icon ap' by unchecking it, you will see the 'Estimated File Size' goes back to normal, i.e. showing a file size. The break point appears to be 64mm width on the object, as any reduction to that point is OK, but reducing to 63mm and below causes the issue. PNG test.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted March 2, 2016 Staff Share Posted March 2, 2016 Thanks imacken, Something weird is going on here. I've logged this to be looked at. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Thanks MEB, glad you could see the issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Thanks for reporting this. The issue is triggered by downsampling. That's why it depends on how you resize the image. A workaround is to switch downsampling off, in File > Export > More. We'll get this fixed in a future beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted April 29, 2016 Staff Share Posted April 29, 2016 Issue fixed in Beta 1.5 beta 1 (not released yet). Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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