Canon CR3 files

[PaulG09]

I stopped using Affinity Photo for processing raw files from my Canon R6, as the white balance and tint were completely different from as shot. Does version 2 address this problem?

[firstdefence]

Got a raw file we can check for you?

[PaulG09]

Thank you for your reply. This was taken yesterday, when I open this in Affinity Photo, this comes up with a white balance of 4410k and a magenta tint of 35%. When I open this in Canon DPP the white balance shows as 5200k. 

_N5A7237.CR3

[lphilpot]

FWIW, here's what it shows in the raw editors I have installed (beautiful buck, by the way):

darktable 4.1 -

RawTherapee 5.9 -

ART 1.16.4 -

DPP 4.16 -

Affinity Photo 1 -

Affinity Photo 2 -

[PaulG09]

Thank you for your reply, I don't understand why Affinity does this. I reported it on version 1 and was hoping it was going to be fixed in this version, but it would appear not.

[lphilpot]

IMO the Develop persona in Photo is more or less a "me too!" thing at this point. Yes, it processes raw images but there are far more powerful (and free) alternatives out there. I've tried it a bit but don't see myself moving to it for raw processing except maybe in a pinch. Hopefully they'll continue to develop it (no pun intended) into something competitive but at this point I don't think it's "there". The Photo persona is why I bought the app.

[Dan C]

I've 'bumped' this bug report with our developers for you - we have tried to add as many bug fixes to V2 as possible, but we're aware not all from V1 have been covered yet, our apologies.

[Patrick Connor]

Sorry that you have experienced this problem with the Affinity Suite. 

We have now released 2.0.4 on all platforms, and using that build we believe this problem no longer occurs.

[A.2001]

Hi, I have the same problems with CR3 Raw pictures. Affinity changes my WB, TINT and FOCUS or SHAPE. Did you solve it? Thx!

[Ldina]

@A.2001 I downloaded @PaulG09's CR3 file (earlier in this thread) and opened it in AP v2.5.7 (Mac M4, running Sequoia). It opens in the Develop Persona with a WB of 5269 and a Tint of -2. To my eyes, that looked WAY too yellow, but those numbers seemed to be fairly close to what @lphilpot saw in other RAW processors. The image was also tonally flat, so I boosted the Exposure to +1 stop and the Blacks to +10, just as a starting point. 

Different RAW processors don't look the same, even if you use the exact same WB/Tint numbers in each one. They all apply their own default recipes (or defaults you set), such as contrast, tone curve, saturation, custom camera profile settings, sharpening, etc. By default, Affinity doesn't apply much of anything. When I opened this RAW image in the Develop Persona, it reported the above numbers and was flat and yellow. If I click the "up arrow" in the White Balance Panel immediately after opening the file (per the screenshot below) it appears I get what the Develop Persona sees as the "correct As Shot WB". The "WB numbers" certainly don't agree with the other processors, but it looked much more natural. That changed the WB to the low 4000K range. If you mess with the sliders first, it no longer gives you that As Shot WB, at least for me...it just moves the WB by set amounts A WB of around 4000K to 4400K looks a lot better to me. Perhaps 4200K in Affinity Develop Persona is somewhat equivalent to 5200K in Canon DPP or another app, at least according to the LIB-RAW color module used in Affinity. I find I have to adjust WB on nearly every image in the Develop Persona, or if I have a known neutral, I can use the WB color picker. 

Not as full featured, for sure, but I find I can get very good results with it nonetheless. I like the ability to use RAW Layer (Linked), which keeps my AfPhoto file sizes small, so I use the Develop Persona a lot. It could be a lot better and more full featured. I hope something here makes sense and is helpful. If not, I'd use a different RAW processor. Canon DPP is made for CR3 files, so I'm sure it will give better results right off the bat. 

[Ldina]

BTW, the attached JPG (sRGB, downsized to 1600 px. JPG Quality 80) was processed from the CR3 file provided (nice photo of that buck, by the way). I used 3800K and +2 Tint in the Affinity Develop Persona, and at least to my eyes, the color looks about right. 5200K was WAY too yellow, IMO (at least when using Affinity Develop Persona). FWIW.

 

[mopperle]

8 hours ago, A.2001 said:

Affinity changes my WB, TINT and FOCUS or SHAPE

Compared to what? It is normal that each RAW developer applies some kind of preset to a RAW file when loaded. To get a "neutral" view you should load the RAW file in a Viewer thats just displays the RAW values, e.g. FastRawViewer. All other viewers, like Faststone, XnView... just show the embedded and higly developed jpg preview.

You may want to upload one of your RAW files to show the differences.