No Bleed in PDF

[Ideagonal]

This issue really worries me. I have recently moved to AP and now I'm working on a book that will be printed. Definitely the problem exists, tested: no printer marks + crop marks or one of the other choices and no Bleedbox metadata appears in Acrobat preflight. Now I'm rethinking the switch to AP, I don't care whose fault it is, I didn't have this problem with InDesign.

@lacerto did you find a solution?

[lacerto]

Obsolete.

[Ideagonal]

Yes, I tested it myself, adding the BleedBox in Acrobat -> metadata. But it kind of defeats the purpose of ditching Adobe subscription. I don't know is there is any other available (and cheap) software that can do that.

[lacerto]

Obsolete.

 

[tudor]

I've been producing all kinds of print-ready files using Affinity Designer and Publisher, and never had any issues with the bleeds. I only export the bleeds, no printer marks. As long as there was a bleed and a Trim Box defined, printers were happy.

[Old Bruce]

Some print shops have so much business they can afford to turn away work which does not pass the automatic check. It is not worth their while to have an employee actually open up those PDFs which don't pass, could be their margins are so tight that the time spent doing that means they lose money.

[Ideagonal]

5 hours ago, tudor said:

I've been producing all kinds of print-ready files using Affinity Designer and Publisher, and never had any issues with the bleeds. I only export the bleeds, no printer marks. As long as there was a bleed and a Trim Box defined, printers were happy.

Good to know, is a quite a step leaving behind a industry standard app (like it or not, but it is), known and tested, for a new tool.

 

5 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Some print shops have so much business they can afford to turn away work which does not pass the automatic check. It is not worth their while to have an employee actually open up those PDFs which don't pass, could be their margins are so tight that the time spent doing that means they lose money.

Yes, I worked with a traditional offset printing house, they ensured no job went to machines with any error, the corrected it or ask me to. Now with enormous online automated printers, this is no longer the case I think. Additionally sometimes my clientes takes the job to press himself, but I have still created it, so I'm still responsible.

[devendra]

On 7/11/2022 at 7:41 AM, lacerto said:

We are talking about different things. I am referring to existence of explicitly defined meta data in a PDF file that other apps read in order to show page box information within  a PDF. Affinity apps add this explicit meta data for BleedBox only if the following three conditions are met:

a) Bleedbox has been defined in File > Document Setup > Bleed (non-zero values).

b) "Include bleed" has been checked in PDF Export dialog box (or under More options).

c) At least one of the options under "Include printers marks" is checked (e.g. "Include page information", or any other of the available marks). Just haivng "Include printers marks" is not enough.

 

Hi,

did anything happen since then? 

I have the same problem which really worries me because my printer only takes standardized PDFs or (of course less preferred) JPG or PNG in the upload tool and for an optimal result I of course prefer to hand in a proper print file as PDF. Missing printer and bleed marks are mandatory and also a (correctly set up) bleed area. 

The issue hit me totally unexpected, I was searching for my mistake for quite some time until I found this thread.

Please make your software more reliable when it comes to absolute basic requirements like these. I don't see why Affinity requires printer marks to accept the fact that I need a bleed area. Other professional graphic programs can handle that too, this can't be too hard to fix? I have no clue how to work around that now...

Any update would be appreciated. Especially something like "will be available with the next software update  

 

 

 

[Robert-hjygawhdxbsehg]

DID ANYONE RESOLVE THE PDF BLEED ISSUE? Exporting PDF there is no way to select 'bleed' because it is gray (not selectable) - When choosing different presents and bleed is selectable and 'ON' but there is no bleed on preview or after export. Crop marks are on. Any solution out there?.

[Robert-hjygawhdxbsehg]

RESOLVED - You need to go to Document set up and make sure bleed is set there first. Then it will show up when exporting as PDF

[walt.farrell]

Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @Robert-hjygawhdxbsehg, and thanks for figuring out and posting the solution to your problem.

[ldecher]

Many, many thanks to user Lacerto!! tolino accepted my cover file after I followed your directions. *falls down in shock*

Be blessed in your endeavors, Live long and prosper, and May your computer files never be corrupted!

I thought I would never get this solved and your explanation was clear and practical. Thank you!

[ldecher]

One more question: if I want to write a blog post on my website for authors, can I quote you, Lacerto? I can link back to the forum if that is allowed.

[henderpa]

For any who are struggling with this:

The solutions posted here didn't work for me. I added bleed in Document Setup, then turned on Include Bleed in my PDF exports—no bleed. It makes space for bleed, but does not give me bleed. To test/prove this, I set bleed to 3" on an 8.5x11 document and made a bunch of green rectangles in the bleed area—see attached screenshot of the interface, and the resulting pdf.

No combination of setting/unsetting/resetting bleed in document setup or export options fixed this, and switching "clip to canvas" on/off had no effect either. The only thing that allowed it to work was if I turned off my live effect layer—then, suddenly, bleed on export worked as it should (though the images looked not at all as intended). So I grouped the live effect along with the images, rasterized the group, and it continued to export bleed properly. To be clear, this is a workaround—the fact that a workaround exists doesn't mean it's not bugged. It means it is bugged.

"But, dude," you say, "live adjustments are an Affinity Photo thing, not an Affinity Designer thing, so why would you expect them to work in Designer?" Well, if they're going to tout as a selling point that the programs are interoperable on the same document, those programs need to actually support each other's features. Designer displays the live layers just fine, so it's bizarre that it can't extend them out to the bleed.
 

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