Yosh Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I am learning the in and outs of Designer and love it. I find myself using it more than Illustrator for projects now. One of the (few) problems I'm having is that when I will lock a layer then continue working and I will realize that the layer was somehow unlocked and I am editing in what was supposed to be a locked layer. For instance today I placed a scanned reference image and locked it. Then I created a pixel working layer on top of it. After a couple dozen brush stokes I realized that the brush strokes were being created on the supposedly locked layer. And the locked image layer had been rasterized. This has happened before when working strictly in a vector project. Is this a bug or do I need to do something else besides clicking the lock icon to truely lock a layer? I am using Windows 10 and a Huion drawing tablet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Yosh said: Is this a bug or do I need to do something else besides clicking the lock icon to truely lock a layer? Locking a layer just prevents you from moving it It does not prevent you from editing it - that is something that has been requested - and will (hopefully) arrive in a new update/upgrade Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosh Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 52 minutes ago, carl123 said: Locking a layer just prevents you from moving it It also prevents you from rotating or scaling it. In other words, it prevents you from transforming it (but that’s all it does). Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 29. 1. 2021 at 12:00 PM, Yosh said: Is this a bug or do I need to do something else besides clicking the lock icon to truely lock a layer? Unfortunately, Serif doesn't understand the point of really locking layers. AllAppsUser and F R 2 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Kay Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 So! How to do you really lock a layer which you do not want to be moved or changed until you decided it needs to be changed????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dee Kay said: So! How to do you really lock a layer which you do not want to be moved or changed until you decided it needs to be changed????? I may not understand your question well, but is it not clear, that this is unfortunately not possible? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 You can't. Alternative options for pixel layers (no one is what you expect): Add snapshot. This allows you to restore the layer at a later time (if you are able to detect that you need to) Create a copy of the layer, and paste it into another file, and save that file, to be able to restore the layer Create a new file from the layer as explained in no 2. Place the new document into the original file, and delete the old layer. The "placed" file is a image document, which is protected against any change (except rasterizing). Again, i know none of these alternatives will match your expectations. At least i tried Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Kay Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Thank you for your attempts to help me. In the past when I was more active in graphic design I used Corel Draw and then latter Adobe products and some other software. I have never had this problem with any other software!! I cannot see how this is anything other than a serious flaw. It would be like a word processor that took a verb and stuck it at the end of a sentence after you saved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Kay Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Looking at the thread I am wondering if the way I described my problem lacked clarity. I am working on a large document, a book which combines images with text. The images and text blocks vary in size on each page. There are guidelines set up to show where text and images can be placed as in any standard illustrated book. That is, you have a common white space and all text and images should not move outside this area into the white space. also there are page headers (with title and section) and page numbers, in this case centred below the bottom of the text/image block. This all should be straight forward with these elements set on master pages as they would be in Indesign or Pagemaker or Word. The problem then is that everything seems fine when I work on the page or print it and so I save it. The next time I open the same document it is not as saved! Text blocks have moved and are not centred on the page and/or have shifted above or below my guides foe top and bottom white space. So if I was doing a book, a magazine or a newspaper the layout would not be centred upon printing. Even when I "lock" items they still move when re-opened. So I have redo the same work of aligning images over and over again with no hope of a final stable product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dee Kay said: Looking at the thread I am wondering if the way I described my problem lacked clarity. I am working on a large document, a book which combines images with text. The images and text blocks vary in size on each page. There are guidelines set up to show where text and images can be placed as in any standard illustrated book. That is, you have a common white space and all text and images should not move outside this area into the white space. also there are page headers (with title and section) and page numbers, in this case centred below the bottom of the text/image block. This all should be straight forward with these elements set on master pages as they would be in Indesign or Pagemaker or Word. The problem then is that everything seems fine when I work on the page or print it and so I save it. The next time I open the same document it is not as saved! Text blocks have moved and are not centred on the page and/or have shifted above or below my guides foe top and bottom white space. So if I was doing a book, a magazine or a newspaper the layout would not be centred upon printing. Even when I "lock" items they still move when re-opened. So I have redo the same work of aligning images over and over again with no hope of a final stable product. You previously posted this question on the thread below. Where a member of the support staff requested a copy of the document Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAppsUser Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Yeah, the layer locking thing is a bit esoteric in these apps. I struggled with it when new as evidenced in the thread below. A quick search in these forums throws up lots of topics about it. Basically, Serif have been ‘sophisticated’ about the ‘locking’ concept (and I commend their ideas). Though you could ask, have they been far more sophisticated on this than any of us need? Even after becoming comfier with these apps, I’d still personally like a good old fashioned option to lock layers... completely, 100%, everything on them, no half measures. Quote - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Words are crude implements, difficult to get perfect, easy to get tied in knots with, and often - usually - misunderstood, which is why 'tolarence' is the best word of all. The word "professional" fits us all - amateur, semi-pro, beginner, advanced, middle, beyond it all, and on....., because professionals are tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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