Jowday Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Cropping toolbar: Simply add an option like in Adobe Photoshop, so anyone knowing he/she actually wants to perform a destructive crop can do it on the spot: Who would immediately think "I will need to rasterize my bitmap photo and trim it to get rid of the area I never wanted Photo to keep anyway" ? Aftemplate 1 Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Conceptually I like that idea. However, the Context Toolbar for the Crop Tool in Photo is already quite full, and that addition would definitely push some of the existing options off into the pulldown. I'm not saying it shoudn't be added; just pointing out that drawback. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: that addition would definitely push some of the existing options off into the pulldown This likely depends on your screen size. On my (desktop) Mac there is plenty of room. Laptop users might not fare as well. A destructive crop mode has been requested previously and had in fact been implemented in one of the betas at one point but Serif pulled it out before the release due to some issues it was causing and it doesn't seem to have made its way back yet. I suspect this is still on the list of things for them to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 It is a very simple feature request from a customer. It is Serifs decision how to actually implement it. If Serif approves it and goes forward with an implementation, ideally a user experience designer is asked to make a proposition for an implementation - it is their job - maybe other feature requests and improvements in the backlog can be grouped with this fix and then the user experience designer can make a proposition for an improved and perhaps simplified toolbar. The user experience designer is responsible for the user interface across programs on all platforms. Developers simply implement it - of course they have a say about the complexity involved implementing it - or alternatives - in the current architecture. Once released in a beta I will have feedback again. Until then I am confident my request is in good hands. Especially if they have a user experience designer. Without one we could end up with a product like.... say... Affinity Photo. Ouch. Granddaddy 1 Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 5:09 PM, Jowday said: Who would immediately think "I will need to rasterize my bitmap photo and trim it to get rid of the area I never wanted Photo to keep anyway" ? No one? I have not not felt any need to trim pixels outside canvas. When I export the image they are gone. No problem. fde101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Fixx said: No one? I have not not felt any need to trim pixels outside canvas. When I export the image they are gone. No problem. Everyone. The pixels are there as a visible selection (when you select the layer) until you export outside the canvas. Super annoying. A problem. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Fixx said: No one? I have not not felt any need to trim pixels outside canvas. When I export the image they are gone. No problem. Just look at this. The crop tool is not selected btw ... there is no explanation, no hint and unless you know about rasterize and trim... no help. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftemplate Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Improvements to this operational detail are beneficial. I think they have too many problems to solve. There is a shortage of developers, That is the current dilemma. I like affinity, but it's far from prime time.It needs to accelerate development. Jowday 1 Quote The more restricted you put on the program, the closer you program is to idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Further it could be fx 20mp pixels cropped away still being handled and saved! If there are several cropped parts from several big images in one Photo document, even more data is dragged along. Customers here do not exactly report that file sizes are small and compact in the first place. Imagine dragging the bones, intestines, hooves and skin with you in a kitchen until the moment the steak is served. No Affinity using chef would care, I guess... Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jowday said: No Affinity using chef would care, I guess... No, usually it does not make any difference. Affinity file sizes are big anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 2:45 PM, Fixx said: No, usually it does not make any difference. Affinity file sizes are big anyway... Oh yes! Humongous file sizes. Another issue reported by customers: So that's two often related issues. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz_H Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 9:36 AM, Fixx said: (...) When I export the image they are gone. No problem. well, in fact there is an unwanted side-effect when exporting images that are not rasterized & trimmed. See my posting here: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/118718-export-bug/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Fritz_H said: See my posting here: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/118718-export-bug/ True, that is a weird bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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