New photo is blue *newbie first post*

[Deanos]

Hi all, I've just downloaded Designer and have placed 2 pictures into the program. However they both have a blue hue sort of colour all over the photo.

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks

[Dan C]

Hi Deanos,

Welcome to the forums

2 hours ago, Deanos said:

I've just downloaded Designer and have placed 2 pictures into the program

What format are the files you're placing please?

This may also be Colour Profile related - do you have a custom ICC profile set for your monitor through your OS? 

[Deanos]

1 hour ago, Dan C said:

Hi Deanos,

Welcome to the forums

What format are the files you're placing please?

This may also be Colour Profile related - do you have a custom ICC profile set for your monitor through your OS? 

Hi

They are JPEG and yes I have just changed my ICC profile to suit my sublimation printer - I am new to all of this.

I did use the website 'Convertico' to convert the JPEG to an AI file however when I place the picture into Affinuty (Or open the picture with Affinity), the picture is blank...

 

Please help :)

[Wosven]

Hi @Deanos

There's no reason to convert your JPEG to AI files, they'll be opened in AP (Photo ) or AD (Designer) without problem, unless you want to convert them to vectors.

[Deanos]

16 minutes ago, Wosven said:

Hi @Deanos

There's no reason to convert your JPEG to AI files, they'll be opened in AP (Photo ) or AD (Designer) without problem, unless you want to convert them to vectors.

Ok thanks, I just tried it to see if that made a difference.

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, Deanos said:

They are JPEG and yes I have just changed my ICC profile to suit my sublimation printer

Color management is a complex topic, involving:

1. The proper color profile for your monitor;
2. The proper color profile for your image; and
3. The proper color profile for your printer.

Theses are all 3 separate profiles, and though I'm not sure what you've done, it sounds like you're saying you assigned your printer profile to your image. That would probably give incorrect results on the screen. Generally the working color profile for your image would be sRGB or possibly a wider-gamut RGB profile.

The profile for your printer would only come in when printing, or more often when doing a soft-proof adjustment to see how the image would print on that printer, as part of possibly adjusting it further to make it print better.

This article on Affinity Spotlight has some more information on color management in the Affinity applications.

 

[Pšenda]

5 hours ago, Deanos said:

I am new to all of this.

https://affinity.help/designer/en-US.lproj/pages/Clr/ClrProfiles.html

https://affinityspotlight.com/article/display-colour-management-in-the-affinity-apps/

[GarryP]

To add to the advice above, for future readers of this thread, if you have not done something weird with your colour profiles, check to see if the Fill Colour of your image is set to something other than None. If it is, set it to None. (This fill colour can sometimes be set without you realising it.) See attached GIF.

[Pšenda]

Hi @GarryP,
I've always wondered what a strange function is that Place Image Fill is tinted like that, not as is customary to fill a frame with color.
Even more strange is when you change Opacity for this color. I would have expected a reduction in color tinting, but unexpectedly, the whole image would become weaker.
Is it a desirable behavior or a mistake?

[GarryP]

I don’t know why giving a fill colour to a placed image changes the colour of the image.
As far as I can tell it does the same job as the Recolour Adjustment (without the extra settings) but I don’t know who would use it.
As for altering the Opacity, I too would have thought that it should change the opacity of the ‘recolouring’ rather than that of the whole placed image (since that’s what the Opacity setting of the layer is for).

Adding both a fill colour and a Recolour Adjustment doesn’t seem to do anything that either one will not do on its own.
I can also give the fill colour some Noise but I can’t see it changing anything.

Maybe there’s some special reason why it works this way that I don’t know about.

P.S. I can also give the Recolour Adjustment a fill colour but that doesn’t seem to do anything either. Why can I give a Recolour Adjustment a fill colour?

[WKansepa]

33 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I don’t know why giving a fill colour to a placed image changes the colour of the image.
As far as I can tell it does the same job as the Recolour Adjustment (without the extra settings) but I don’t know who would use it.
As for altering the Opacity, I too would have thought that it should change the opacity of the ‘recolouring’ rather than that of the whole placed image (since that’s what the Opacity setting of the layer is for).

Adding both a fill colour and a Recolour Adjustment doesn’t seem to do anything that either one will not do on its own.
I can also give the fill colour some Noise but I can’t see it changing anything.

Maybe there’s some special reason why it works this way that I don’t know about.

P.S. I can also give the Recolour Adjustment a fill colour but that doesn’t seem to do anything either. Why can I give a Recolour Adjustment a fill colour?

It appears that the moment you place an image into Designer a mask is automatically created on the image. So when you select the "image" and apply a colour to the image, you are actually applying the colour to the mask! It goes to follow that the Opacity which is being changed is actually of the mask not the image… You can confirm this by selecting No Colour slash mark and you will find that the image is completely unscathed and is displaying at full opacity. 

[Deanos]

It's all sorted guys, when I updated my printer icc settings it changed my monitor to the same. I changed said monitor settings back to default and its back to normal.

 

Thanks for your input!

[GarryP]

@william I’m not sure I’m totally happy with that explanation. Firstly, I thought a mask was something that could be used to make part of a layer invisible, whereas giving a fill colour just recolours the whole image. Secondly, I can give a gradient fill to the image, which doesn’t sound like ‘masking’ at all. I could be wrong but it just doesn’t sound right to me.

[WKansepa]

GarryP thanks for the insight. Let me expound a bit on my "mask" theory.

• When you are working in Designer Persona you can apply a fill or a stroke to the "image" but as I explained before the colour is not being directly applied onto the image, but rather onto an invisible "mask" which happens to have no modal window. Colour applied to this "mask" is non-destructive. This can be confirmed by taking out the colour by selecting the No Fill / Stroke indicator.
• Compare this with the Pixel Persona where you can choose to apply a brush stroke directly on to the image without any mask being created thereby permanently altering pixels.

I guess this is one of those under the hood technologies at work.

This is only a theory…

Edited January 11, 2020 by william