Florida Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) I keep trying to draw shapes with grids set and all snapping features turned on, yet nothing ever aligns to a grid. No matter what I do I may as well be drawing with a brush. In the attached image not one single thing is snapping to the visible grid. What do I have to do to get snapping to grid to work? Having implemented grids and snapping in a drawing engine in the past, this is pretty frustrating. I've tried turning things on and off randomly but nothing changes the lack of snappery. Resizing seems to support a little snapping, but creation seems to not do anything. Edited December 29, 2019 by Florida Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
Old Bruce Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 You have two snapping items on, pixels and the grid. Turn off the pixels and you'll then be able to only snap to to the grid. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Florida Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 That does not change anything. I've tried all combinations of those options, nothing lets me create objects that snap to grid boundaries. It's as if it only ever snaps to a 1 pix boundary. Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
GarryP Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Can you show what your Grid Manager looks like please? Have you switched all snapping OFF except “Snap to Grid”. Quote
Old Bruce Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Do you see the little coloured dots which show up when you are on a snapping candidate? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Florida Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 Nothing appears when I drag create or resize. Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
Old Bruce Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Try a restart of Photo by quitting and Clearing User Data. Do this after you have backed up your brushes etc which you have created. Hold down the Control while starting Photo, the Clear User Data dialog window will appear and you can then click Clear. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
GarryP Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Are the two documents you gave screen-grabs for in your initial post the same one? I only ask as the grid doesn’t seem to be the same (or I’m not looking at it correctly). Note where the grid seems to line up with 3000,3500,4000 etc. on the horizontal ruler on the second version but doesn’t on the first. Quote
Old Bruce Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 One more thought, do you have Metal enable for the display (in Preferences > Performance)? I seem to recall there were problems with open GL not working properly. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Florida Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 Same doc, I changed the grid in between from 64 to 256 to make it more obvious; the ruler should not affect how a grid works. Yes I am using Metal. Snapping has never seemed to work since I bought Photo. Resetting cached info for an app should not change how the code works, snapping is clearly a code feature not a data feature. Note also that setting the same options in Affinity Designer works correctly. I think Photo is just buggy. Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
Old Bruce Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Florida said: Nothing appears when I drag create or resize. When I have snapping on and set to snap to grid I do get the coloured dots and a jerky jumping size of the rectangle I am drawing. If I have snapping off then nothing appears. Are you using a mouse, trackpad, graphics pen? What OS are you using? Do you have any third party utilities for Mice or keyboard shortcuts installed? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Florida Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 Latest Mac Catalina on 2018 iMac. Nothing added. Just a regular mouse. Like I said it works in Designer. Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
Pšenda Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Why is Screen Tolerance = 3? I have 8. It is same in ADe and APh? 6 hours ago, Florida said: same options in Affinity Designer works correctly. I think Photo is just buggy. Try to enlarge it, depending on the screen size and number of pixels. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
h_d Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Have you tried increasing the Screen tolerance? I find with your settings (Screen tolerance 3, at pretty much any magnification), then it won't snap. Increase the Screen tolerance to around 8 or 12 and see if that helps. (I'm on Catalina too, 2018 MacBook Pro.) Quote Affinity Photo 2.5.3, Affinity Designer 2.5.3, Affinity Publisher 2.5.3, Mac OSX 14.5, 2018 MacBook Pro 15" Intel.
Florida Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 Yahoo that's the trick. No idea why it defaulted to 3. Thanks! h_d 1 Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
Pšenda Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Florida said: No idea why it defaulted to 3. Thanks! You're welcome. The value of 3 is certainly not the default, this is the mentioned value of 8. Likewise, the default value of Snapping Candidates is not 1. I think you edited these values and changed the input boxes. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Florida Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 I did randomly change all sorts of values trying to get it to work. It's not terribly useful giving people to many options to mess with. Quote Device: Apple M1 Ultra 64GB Ventura 13.0.1 Apple Studio Display - Andrew
walt.farrell Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, Florida said: It's not terribly useful giving people to many options to mess with. The options are all useful when you have more experience and understanding, and would be missed by experienced users if they were not provided. A couple of suggestions: First read the Help or watch the tutorials to see how something should work, and when changing options make changes to a single option at a time, rather than changing a lot of things at one time Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Pšenda Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Florida said: It's not terribly useful giving people to many options to mess with. I think it would be useful for affinity applications, to allow two modes - for beginners and for professionals. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
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