BmrBird Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Hi Chris, thanks again for your input and follow-up on this problem. Let's hope they resolve the problem soon. Chris B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter2017 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Hallo! Perhaps - seems nothing new...still in the 1.8.0.526 Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmrBird Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Hi Peter2017, yes, I agree with you, it's a problem impacting quite a lot of users. How hard can this be for the developers to fix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amateur John Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 There may be a combination of causes. One contributory cause, possible with Nikon NEF files is the effect of Active D-Lighting (ADL). This is intended for producing acceptable out of camera JPEGs in high contrast situations but does effect NEF. Exposure is reduced to reduce the burning out of highlights then the shadows are recovered in creating the JPEGs including the embedded jpeg in the NEF file which is also displayed on the camera monitor. An entry is made in the NEF EXIF such as "Active D-Lighting Auto". The in camera histograms are generated from that embedded jpeg so the deliberate underexposure is not obvious to the photographer. If the NEF file is opened in Nikon's own software such as Capture NX-D that software picks up the EXIF entry and acts upon it. Affinity does not seem to react to that entry so the image appears dark and the histogram is created from the real raw data. I see this as something that Nikon users need to be aware of, and not something to be fixed by Affinity. I agree with other users that something else is going on. ADL has affected files which I submitted on another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter2017 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Hi Amateur John! Thank you for your considerations. Perhaps, here is a solution...klick...and look at the new Beta (1.8.0.555) from today. No dark RAWs anymore (ORF). Everything works fine, yet. Greetings Peter Edited February 15, 2020 by Peter2017 orthography Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amateur John Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Thanks for posting. Starting the previous beta was not alerting the update which has gone live today. The Affinity team have even been working Saturday on this . I have tried the new beta on Nikon NEF and it is good. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmrBird Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 After updating to Affinity Photo (Windows 10) Ver 1.8.0.585 and trying the original K3_0317.DNG RAW image, it now displays correctly in both Develop and Photo personas. Here is a screenshot in Photo Persona, and compared the original I posted 25 Dec 2019 you can see the improvement. From my perspective AP now appears to be functioning correctly. Chris B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanTHerring Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 I have what appears to be the identical issue on my Mac with Canon CR2 files: The picture opens darker than expected in Affinity and differently than it used to. I can process the files OK, but they open 2 or 3 stops more under exposed than they are (I am recording both jpeg and raw). This is a change. I hope it gets fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmrBird Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 Hi Alan, yes, your problem sounds just like the problem I was having. Since installing Affinity Photo ver 1.8.0.585 (Windows) back in Feb 2020, my problem was finally fixed. I've since updated to ver 1.8.3.641 and everything is still working ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_B Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Hi all, I seem to have the same issue as Alan. I'm on Mac (OS 10.15.5) with AF 1.8.3 and I work with Canon CR2 files. I recently noticed a change in RAW files handling: they are always way darker in AF. Here are the histograms from the exact same RAW file : (#1) is from the back of the Camera (EOS 6D ii) (#2) is from the Apple Photo app on Mac (not a single adjustment was made) (#3) is from AP Develop Persona (not a single adjustment was made) (#4) is from AP Photo Persona after creating a pile from this one photo only and degrouping (not a single adjustment was made) I don't get why I do not have the same histogram in these 4 conditions. Ok, (1) (2) and (3) could be a bit different because it might not be using the same "development engine", but I would expect them to be much closer, and moreover, why are (3) and (4) not identical? Thank you in advance, to the whole community! Edited July 15, 2020 by S_B Moved the screenprints around to make the post clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, S_B said: Here are the histograms from the exact same RAW file : (#1) is from the back of the Camera (EOS 6D ii) (#2) is from the Apple Photo app on Mac (not a single adjustment was made) (#3) is from AP Develop Persona (not a single adjustment was made) (#4) is from AP Photo Persona after creating a pile from this one photo only and degrouping (not a single adjustment was made) I don't get why I do not have the same histogram in these 4 conditions. Ok, (1) (2) and (3) could be a bit different because it might not be using the same "development engine", but I would expect them to be much closer, and moreover, why are (3) and (4) not identical? Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @S_B. If I had to guess, I would guess that #4 is actually from the Develop Persona and #3 is from the Photo Persona. I'm not sure about #1 and #2. Can you verify which is which, and edit your post (or repost the text) to clarify that, so we don't have to guess Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 8:52 PM, walt.farrell said: If I had to guess, I would guess that #4 is actually from the Develop Persona and #3 is from the Photo Persona The images were correctly labelled: #3 is Develop Persona, #4 is Photo Persona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, anon2 said: The images were correctly labelled: #3 is Develop Persona, #4 is Photo Persona. I'm curious how you can tell that. Thanks. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, walt.farrell said: I'm curious how you can tell that. Thanks. The top of Histogram panel has no checkboxes in Develop persona. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 8:27 PM, S_B said: why are (3) and (4) not identical? In the current and previous versions of AP, developing camera raw files with the New Stack command employs a different procedure than developing in Develop persona, and the result is typically darker. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted August 7, 2020 Staff Share Posted August 7, 2020 We have made fixes/improvements to this area (Raw files can get stuck in Unmanaged mode) of the program in the latest release. The fixes and how to update are described in these forum posts. Affinity Designer 1.8.4 for Windows ( Microsoft Store and Affinity Store ) Affinity Photo 1.8.4 for Windows ( Microsoft Store and Affinity Store ) Affinity Publisher 1.8.4 for Windows ( Microsoft Store and Affinity Store ) We would appreciate you checking that this issue has now been resolved for you. Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_B Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Hi @Patrick Connor, I don't seem to have any issue in unmanaged mode. In managed mode, however, when stacking Raw files using the Serif Labs raw engine (with version 1.8.4, I checked) I still get significantly darker images than the ones I get in Develop Persona (without any adjustment, of course) — the histogram gets shifted/gathered to the left. If I change the Raw Engine to Apple (core image raw), then I get the same result in Develop Persona and when stacking raw files. So, for now, my raw engine is set to Apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro1 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'm now having this problem also (i.e., cr2 raw files from a newly acquired Canon 5D Mk iv are coming out extremely dark - far too dark). Don't seem to have the same problem with raw files from my 5DSR or 80D. I've done nothing differently to what I've been doing in previous years in terms of work flow. Am using AP version 1.8.5.703. Clearly I am not the only one with this issue. I am not even bothering to use AP for these files because even with bringing up exposure, lightening the raw file, etc, it still doesn't look quite right. So.......am back to using Lightroom. Affinity - PLEASE FIX THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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