Text overflow in master page

[garrettm30]

Following Walt’s recommendation in another thread, I’ll start a bug thread about this issue, especially as the new beta 1.8.0.499 aims to “Prevent spurious warnings about overflow text in text frames that won’t be output anyhow.”

There is an overflow warning when trying to print or export when text in a master page overflows, even if there is no overflow on any of the “real” pages. I found this example when I used the Section Name field on a master page, and the placeholder <Section Name> text was too long, but the actual name of the section was very short and did not cause overflow.

Attached is a very simple demonstration, here made in Publisher 1.8.0.499 on macOS 10.14.6. Although I have made the document with the beta, this is actually an older issue, not a regression.

My opinion is that the overflow warning should not take master pages into account, as they themselves are not actually output.

master_page_overflow.afpub

 

[A_B_C]

On 11/1/2019 at 9:30 PM, garrettm30 said:

My opinion is that the overflow warning should not take master pages into account, as they themselves are not actually output.

But Garrett, what happens when there is some text on a master page that is actually output? There may be cases when static text is meant to appear on every single layout page. That doesn’t invalidate your observation regarding the Section Name Field, of course, but I think the suggestion you made could have undesired effects. I’d rather suggest that placeholder texts (labels) should be removed from the overflow validation process. 

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, A_B_C said:

But Garrett, what happens when there is some text on a master page that is actually output? There may be cases when static text is meant to appear on every single layout page.

In that situation the text would also overflow on the document pages, and the overflow check would catch it there.

I think that Garrett's got a good point.

[A_B_C]

Okay … LOL … that’s entirely logical … 

[Pauls]

That's been logged now - thanks

[garrettm30]

This is an old bug, and I had thought that it was fixed, but I am seeing it again. Is it merely my imagination that it was fixed or has there been a regression?

I can provide a new sample file if needed, but of course, no point in wasting anyone’s time if this is still an open bug.

[MikeTO]

5 hours ago, garrettm30 said:

This is an old bug, and I had thought that it was fixed, but I am seeing it again. Is it merely my imagination that it was fixed or has there been a regression?

I can provide a new sample file if needed, but of course, no point in wasting anyone’s time if this is still an open bug.

I don't think it was ever changed, 1.10 and 2.3 have the same behaviour - overflowing text in a master frame is flagged even if there's no overflowing text in the frame on any document page. I agree it should be changed.