GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The Inpainting (and related) Tool and Clone Tool will work effectively for perhaps six and (maximum) ten applications. Then any of them will either not work at all or will replicate areas nowhere near what I have attempted to edit out. In a previous question, I joked about portrait photographs ending up with three eyes or beards. Using the advice given to my previous question, I spent about two days attempting to get the Inpainting Tool, the Patch Tool, and others; and also the Clone Tool, to work. They will not. The interesting thing is the Tools will not work on this project even after a resting period. A project started on the 8th, and then abandoned until yesterday morning because the Tools stopped working, and then until yesterday evening, cannot be edited. This suggests that the problem isn't the OS or memory (it is a Windows 7 computer with 4 gig of RAM). On the other hand, it couldn't be a problem with the software, or at least I don't see how it could be a problem with it. If it matters, I edit JPEGs that have accompanying RAW files. I prefer to edit JPEGs. I have Affinity on an Ipad Pro but have never used it. Before I move the files to the Cloud and then the Ipad, I thought I'd ask if OS and RAM have an impact on Affinity's viability, because I do not like the Ipad and stopped buying Microsoft products after an allegedly reversible Windows 10 upgrade wiped out my Windows 7 hard disk. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, American said: The interesting thing is the Tools will not work on this project even after a resting period. A project started on the 8th, and then abandoned until yesterday morning because the Tools stopped working, and then until yesterday evening, cannot be edited. Upload that document... or show us some full size screenshots with you attempting to use the (unusable) tools, showing the context tool bar and the layers panel Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, carl123 said: Upload that document... or show us some full size screenshots with you attempting to use the (unusable) tools, showing the context tool bar and the layers panel Oh, dear. Now is not the time to use the imperative mood to any user with the screen name American. Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Depends what you mean by viable? more memory is always going to make using multiple apps smoother and the OS is kind of a moot point because most people would not change a whole system just to use a £50 app. You have to be realistic in your expectations in relation to the hardware you have so expecting “blazing speed” whatever that might mean is being unrealistic on a 4GB of memory system while using multiple apps. Having a good system isn’t always about raw power, it’s the harmony of components within a system and the alleviation of system bottlenecks that choke a systems otherwise impressive specs. So Affinty products are “viable” within the remit of realistic expectations. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted October 10, 2018 Staff Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hi American, The issues you describe in the 1st post, we really need a copy of that document and screen recording of it not working on your system before we could say what the issue is and investigate it further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, firstdefence said: Having a good system isn’t always about raw power, it’s the harmony of components within a system and the alleviation of system bottlenecks that choke a systems otherwise impressive specs. Thank you for the response. As Affinity, as with Photo Plus before it, was never software I use daily, I sincerely did not realize this fluke until posting this past weekend. I can't explain the "fatigue" my Affinity has. I stress my copy of the software. I will install it on an "old-style-tablet" laptop with a stylus and see if it gets tired as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, stokerg said: Hi American, The issues you describe in the 1st post, we really need a copy of that document and screen recording of it not working on your system before we could say what the issue is and investigate it further. Thank you. I will have to wait until the weekend and post screenshots. This will require some time. Serious question, and please excuse if it's ignorant: I bought Movavi from Serif and would like to know if it would record what I was doing. I don't know how I'd post such a large file, but there's no question showing with video rather than posting screenshots would be preferable. --Or maybe I could create a Youtube account and post the video there. I just don't have any screen-recording software other than Movavi, which I have used only once. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted October 10, 2018 Staff Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, American said: Thank you. I will have to wait until the weekend and post screenshots. This will require some time. Serious question, and please excuse if it's ignorant: I bought Movavi from Serif and would like to know if it would record what I was doing. I don't know how I'd post such a large file, but there's no question showing with video rather than posting screenshots would be preferable. --Or maybe I could create a Youtube account and post the video there. I just don't have any screen-recording software other than Movavi, which I have used only once. Movavi would record the screen and make it a lot easier to see what is happening I've setup a Dropbox link here so you can upload the screen recording. If you could also upload the RAW file or .afphoto file you are working with, that will be a great help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, stokerg said: Movavi would record the screen and make it a lot easier to see what is happening I've setup a Dropbox link here so you can upload the screen recording. If you could also upload the RAW file or .afphoto file you are working with, that will be a great help Thank you! I will get on the project this weekend. stokerg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, American said: As Affinity, as with Photo Plus before it, was never software I use daily, I sincerely did not realize this fluke until posting this past weekend. It is not a "fluke." All computing devices have finite resources so there really should be nothing surprising about trying to use all of them at once causing responsiveness issues. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, R C-R said: It is not a "fluke." All computing devices have finite resources so there really should be nothing surprising about trying to use all of them at once causing responsiveness issues. Certainly, but I'm a resource minimalist. When I use Affinity, I'm not at the same time streaming music, video-conferencing, and also cranking up my USB egg poacher. I will try to replicate the phenomenon this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, American said: cranking up my USB egg poacher Terribly OT, I know, but I couldn’t help being reminded of this. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, αℓƒяє∂ said: Terribly OT, I know, but I couldn’t help being reminded of this. Ah, ha ha, Alfried! Now if I could just get my hair to be as lovely as hers, I wouldn't be posting to the forum. Oh how the mighty, and all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, American said: Now if I could just get my hair to be as lovely as hers Hers?? Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, αℓƒяє∂ said: Hers?? I'm not so old my eye can't wander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPR-354025 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/10/2018 at 4:31 AM, stokerg said: Movavi would record the screen and make it a lot easier to see what is happening I've setup a Dropbox link here so you can upload the screen recording. If you could also upload the RAW file or .afphoto file you are working with, that will be a great help Well, Movavi kept crashing and wouldn't work in tandem with Affinity, so I made 34 screenshots using the Inpainting Tool alone and Batch Exported them (btw, someone might tell Mr. Ritson that his tutorial on Batch Export suggests that a New Folder can be created, when a user can only choose an existing folder). I will try to upload the 34 50% reduced files to the Dropbox. There definitely is the replicated Clone Tool-like artifacts, although the replication can't be seen as exactly in this "nature" photo as one could see with a portrait and fly-away hair. In fact, I now wonder if anyone working in nature photography, with the exception of Macros, would ever encounter the issue of Inpainting or Clone "fatigue" (my name for it). But very interestingly to me, the Inpainting Tool stopped working abruptly at about #20. (Screenshots numbered.) I kept selecting the same area, and the Inpainting Tool just would not work. Then, when I selected a different direction, the Inpainting Tool started working again. For the sake of anyone who reads this, I'll post #1 and #34. I'll be away from the internet until at least tomorrow. Yes, I know how this disappoints. Edited October 12, 2018 by American Old Age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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