tarc Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Clicking on the color wheel is a very common action. It would be nice not to have to always check if the focus is on fill or stroke. It could be like this : Default click on color wheel = Always fill color Alt+click or right click on color wheel= Always stroke color. A nice usability detail that would increase productivity Could work on swatches too. thedivclass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripsholmLion Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I am unconvinced. I would find it easier to remember to select the fill or stroke than try to remember which action to use, but I make no claims about my brain working like anyone else's, so it may depend upon how one thinks and works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aammppaa Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Xara uses this approach (left click = fill, right click = stroke). IMHO it is very quick and becomes muscle memory very quickly. This has been requested several times before... There are issues of consistency if the same approach were introduced to Affinity... Not all mice have right click. Can you right click on an iPad? Also, Swatches panel already uses right click to bring up a menu. So, sadly I can't see Serif implementing this. Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Win10 Home x64 | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 3.7GHz | 48 GB RAM | 1TB SSD | nVidia GTX 1660 | Wacom Intuos Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Disappointed Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 35 minutes ago, Aammppaa said: Xara uses this approach (left click = fill, right click = stroke). IMHO it is very quick and becomes muscle memory very quickly. CorelDRAW as well. Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Experienced Quality Assurance Manager - I strive for excellence in complex professional illustrations through efficient workflows in modern applications, supporting me in achieving my and my colleagues' goals through the most achievable usability and contemporary, easy-to-use user interfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarc Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 On 1/31/2024 at 6:22 PM, Aammppaa said: Xara uses this approach (left click = fill, right click = stroke). IMHO it is very quick and becomes muscle memory very quickly. Exactly ! The Adobe fill/stroke protocol switching is often a distraction, it's freeing not to think about it. Details like this amount to productivity in the long run. It could be implemented just as an option in preferences. I enjoy working Affinity Designer, there is some innovative and clever aspects in the workflow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Disappointed Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I can say that in the heat of the moment, I often end up applying the color to the wrong attribute (stroke or fill) because I'm not paying full attention to which of the two is on top, and it's equally frustrating every time. Fundamentally, there are two distinct approaches to the color palette, where Serif has taken a stance from the beginning with Affinity, and I've never envied CorelDRAW or Inkscape for theirs. But neither have I found contentment in Adobe/Serif's method, which often requires extra clicks just to apply color to something. Over a week, those extra clicks add up significantly, and one must always keep an eye on which is on top, hit the tiny icon above stroke-fill or press 'X' on the keyboard. Essentially, the left-right click method probably works best with CorelDRAW's principle of a narrow color palette that is always visible on the screen. Like @GripsholmLion I'm not convinced or satisfied. I'm looking for some new ideas in this area. Quote Experienced Quality Assurance Manager - I strive for excellence in complex professional illustrations through efficient workflows in modern applications, supporting me in achieving my and my colleagues' goals through the most achievable usability and contemporary, easy-to-use user interfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 1/31/2024 at 6:27 PM, GripsholmLion said: I am unconvinced. Also - for example when using a tablet, the "necessity" to use a modifier key (require keyboard control) is annoying. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 1/31/2024 at 3:47 PM, tarc said: Default click on color wheel = Always fill color Alt+click or right click on color wheel= Always stroke color. I suggested, too, left/right click for fill/stroke color long time ago and I, once again, want to emphasize how important is this as a time (and nerves, too) saver expecially when working with plenty of layers. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarc Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 On 2/2/2024 at 9:31 PM, Bit Dissapointed said: Over a week, those extra clicks add up significantly, and one must always keep an eye on which is on top, hit the tiny icon above stroke-fill or press 'X' on the keyboard. Exactly, in long sessions in can get annoying for such a low level action. As mentioned, it would be an option so it wouldn't affect other patterns of working, It would just add a straightforward productivity detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/2/2024 at 9:31 PM, Bit Dissapointed said: I can say that in the heat of the moment, I often end up applying the color to the wrong attribute (stroke or fill) because I'm not paying full attention to which of the two is on top, and it's equally frustrating every time. Maybe an indicator could be added to the mouse pointer when over the wheels showing a filled rectangle or an outline to indicate whether the fill or stroke is being set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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