pomme27 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Looking for some guidance please. 1. I used Affinity Publisher to typeset a physical book in April this year. When I completed the project, I exported the book from AFPUB to PDF as "spreads". Everything looked ok. 2. Yesterday I opened the same AFPUB file with the intent to make some changes requested by the book's author. I noticed that the text flow now looks different. I re-exported from AFPUB to PDF, again as spreads, and can see that the text flow indeed has changed. The spacing between letters seems tighter, in some instances causing more words to fit on a line of text, and throwing off the overall page formatting throughout the entire text. Please see the example in the attached image. I know everyone says this, but I made no changes whatsoever to the AFPUB file since last April. The "date modified" on the AFPUB file still shows as 11 April 2023. Within Affinity Publisher, I've also reviewed all the various character, paragraph, text style, and text frame settings that I can think of, and I see nothing that has changed since April. I did upgrade to a new version of Affinity Publisher (version 2.2.0) a few days ago, but I find it hard to believe that that is the cause. I would appreciate any and all suggestions on what else to look at to problem-solve this. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, pomme27 said: I did upgrade to a new version of Affinity Publisher (version 2.2.0) a few days ago, but I find it hard to believe that that is the cause. The only way to ensure that your text looks exactly the same as before is to use the same software version. By updating to a new version you should be prepared for some changes as the text algorithm gets updated/tweaked all the time. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 In addition to what Seneca said above, if you are using a font which was supplied with the operating system, upgrading/updating the operating system may cause the font to be changed – and therefore give a different text flow because of tweaks to glyphs/kerning/spacing/etc. – since fonts can also be upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, pomme27 said: I made no changes whatsoever to the AFPUB file since last April How about fonts? For instance in macOS some fonts delivered by Apple may get updated in a modified version which could cause a different text flow. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, pomme27 said: I know everyone says this, but I made no changes whatsoever to the AFPUB file since last April. The "date modified" on the AFPUB file still shows as 11 April 2023. Within Affinity Publisher, I've also reviewed all the various character, paragraph, text style, and text frame settings that I can think of, and I see nothing that has changed since April. A shot in the dark here. One thing you may have changed is the [No Style] paragraph and character text styles. Ultimately these are what all your text styles are based on. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme27 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 Thanks for the tips. When I upgraded to Affinity Publisher 2.2.0, the upgrade overlaid my prior Affinity Publisher 2.app file. Is there any way I can re-download the prior version of Affinity Publisher, just to test if my issue is related to the new software version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, pomme27 said: Is there any way I can re-download the prior version of Affinity Publisher Yes Here is https://store.serif.com/en-gb/update/macos/publisher/2/ Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme27 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 OK. I downloaded prior versions of Affinity Publisher, then opened my AFPUB file from April 2023 within each of the versions. See the results in the attachment. In April, I would have been on Affinity Publisher version 2.0.4. When I open my AFPUB file in that version, the text flow looks fine. In any later version, it does not. So it could be that something changed in the Affinity Publisher software after 2.0.4. I also was on macOS 13.3 back in April, and am on macOS 14.0 now. I have no easy way to test my AFPUB document under different versions of macOS. There is some possibility that my issue relates to macOS changes, but the timing doesn't line up quite as well. Anyway, I'm not sure if there is anything further I can do to get the text flow back the way it was, other than to re-build the book page by page. If that's what I need to do, ok. But if anyone has any other thoughts, pls let me know. Thanks. thomaso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, pomme27 said: So it could be that something changed in the Affinity Publisher software after 2.0.4. Thanks for the research. It's of course possible a bug was introduced in 2.1.0, but it's also possible that a bug was fixed. Old Bruce 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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