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2 minutes ago, R C-R said:

What exactly do you mean by current set

Probably those from the color prefs setup are taken into demand here.

 

3 minutes ago, R C-R said:

how do you know all of them are embedded in the document?

Don't know if APub has some info panel for those things like embedded profiles too, as I really never use(d) APub (so I would have to search through the help system). But some others who are more APub power users will know here.

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Posted
1 minute ago, R C-R said:

What exactly do you mean by current set,

Those that appear in the Dokument Setup > Colour for its several formats as currently selected <- set. There is 1 for each format.

As said, not sure if LAB is embedded (unless someone used another than the only 1 delivered by Affinity). For RGB, CMYK and Grayscale the indicators are described in this thread various times. If you don't like them or find them not satisfying feel free to test it, also described a few times in this thread, last time for grayscale some minutes ago to v_kyr.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Probably those from the color prefs setup are taken into demand here.

But if so, why does nothing happen if, after a document is opened, one or more of those prefs are changed by the user? Hasn't that 'current set' changed? If so, then why doesn't the document require resaving with the changed/updated current set?

There has to be more to it than that.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, R C-R said:

But if so, why does nothing happen if, after a document is opened, one or more of those prefs are changed by the user? Hasn't that 'current set' changed?

Usually it should have changed then, but if the doc has already been created before (via new doc) and you change the prefs settings afterwards it's IMO not always immediately recognized. - I recall that when I tried playing around with the APub "sRGB-CMYKcolorshift.afpub" file from thomaso, that certain prefs setup things only updated when I restarted APub, or when a new file is afterwards created (... though not sure on the later here memory wise, if that was enough then without restarting APub).

So I assume there is some dynamic change/update problem with the color prefs. Probably it's as with other prefs settings too here, where you have to restart Affinity apps in order for them to be taken into account at all (... things which are written as app defaults on app closing, and only (re)read when the app is started up).

24 minutes ago, R C-R said:

If so, then why doesn't the document require resaving with the changed/updated current set?

See the above said, it may have not be taken into account yet and the already open Affinity file is thus actually not affected by that, as it had been created with other previous settings before. - At least I assume something like this here!

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Posted
5 minutes ago, R C-R said:

I am not suggesting that either. But I still do not see any definitive evidence that multiple profiles are embedded in the document, just a lot of speculation about that.

It's not only speculation. I could provide you with example documents as proof. But I won't and will not describe a verification method because I'm absolutely certain you will misinterpret it and then I'll need to spend hours fending off claptrap.

Posted
12 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Usually it should have changed then, but if the doc has already been created before (via new doc) and you change the prefs settings afterwards it's IMO not always immediately recognized.

The change in the document never seems to be recognized for me, even after quitting the app, restarting it, & reopening the document file.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, R C-R said:

The change in the document never seems to be recognized for me, even after quitting the app, restarting it, & reopening the document file.

Create a new one (doc) after altering/changing the color prefs settings (restart APub inbetween the steps) a new doc should take changes from there then usually into account. - The whole is more meant for creating new docs then, instead of changing/updating existing docs. - So from my vage memory try out ...

  1. Change the Color Prefs profile settings
  2. Close APub
  3. Start APub and create a new doc
  4. ...

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Posted
1 minute ago, v_kyr said:

Create a new one (doc) after altering/changing the color prefs settings (restart APub inbetween the steps) a new doc should take changes from there then usually into account.

Sure. That is exactly how I expect it to work because those prefs are the defaults for new docs.

2 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

So from my vage memeory try out ...

  1. Change the Color Prefs profile settings
  2. Close APub
  3. Start APub and create a new doc
  4. ...

I am not sure what this is supposed to show. Every new doc should default to using the current color prefs, whatever they are, but I am asking about changing those prefs while an existing doc is open. That seems to have zero effect on the opened document, even if I quit & restart APub, & then open that document again.

IOW, there does not seem to be any update occurring in the profile info embedded in that document, delayed or otherwise. FWIW, it is the same in all 3 apps & in both V1 & V2.

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Posted
44 minutes ago, R C-R said:

...but I am asking about changing those prefs while an existing doc is open. That seems to have zero effect on the opened document, even if I quit & restart APub, & then open that document again.

IOW, there does not seem to be any update occurring in the profile info embedded in that document, delayed or otherwise. FWIW, it is the same in all 3 apps & in both V1 & V2.

Don't know and can't tell if it is intended to change/update doc profiles on the fly dynamically from there in some manner at all. Though one can reassign/change the docs own used color space (profile), but that probably may not affect then any reassignment of the other possible/already embedded color space profiles from the color prefs. - Also don't know if instead using/placing then a new other color space value from a color panel (...as for example creating some rect filled with a new CMYK color value from CMYK color panel) might have some dynamic profile change or addition impact here or not.

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Don't know and can't tell if it is intended to change/update doc profiles on the fly dynamically from there in some manner at all.

All I can say about that is it does not update in any of my Affinity apps, including after restarting them.

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Posted
12 hours ago, R C-R said:

but I am asking about changing those prefs while an existing doc is open. That seems to have zero effect on the opened document, even if I quit & restart APub, & then open that document again.

That is correct. The Color Preferences apply only to new documents that you create after they are set.

Existing documents already have their color settings established, and changes to the Color Preferences have no effect on them.

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