Richio75 Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 So are they going to keep ignoring the many people who are asking for the auto trace? Quote
Petar Petrenko Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Richio75 said: So are they going to keep ignoring the many people who are asking for the auto trace? Affinity does not ignore anybody. They are just a small team and demands are too many. IPv6 1 Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100)
IPv6 Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 There is vtracer - https://www.visioncortex.org/vtracer/ convert to svg with colors etc... Quote
Pšenda Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 As you can see, there are many alternatives to the Autotrace function, i.e. its priority compared to much more important functions (for example vector warp) is understandably lower. Andy05 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Ole-André Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 Quote As you can see, there are many alternatives to the Autotrace function, i.e. its priority compared to much more important functions (for example vector warp) is understandably lower. Even more reason to have tracing in Designer. Every (vector) application I know of has this feature, it's a core function. It's also not that hard to make, so I see no excuses for not adding it. Quote
Andy05 Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Ole-André said: Even more reason to have tracing in Designer. Every (vector) application I know of has this feature, it's a core function. It's also not that hard to make, so I see no excuses for not adding it. Seriously, tracing an image (turning a raster image into vectors) is a one-time procedure to be done to an image during the design process. The result will be used in further workflow and in a design/layout. It's not that much of a downside, using dedicated apps for this process. Neither in time needed for this, nor in functionality. For me, a design software should provide the steps, which I repeatedly have to do or edit during the workflow of designing/layout. Tracing clearly isn't one of the "constantly repeating steps" one usually needs during a project. RNKLN and Pšenda 2 Quote »There are three responses to a piece of design: yes, no, and wow. Wow is the one to aim for.« Milton Glaser (1929 - 2020)
Valentín Benavente Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 Bearing in mind that there are pretty decent free or inexpensive third party options out there, I think it is a waste of time to code it into Designer. In fact, I don't rely on one single tracer, having two already installed plus an online one, as they provide different results. So, for me, having one more tracer built into Designer should be nice, but absolutely not important. Andy05 1 Quote
Ole-André Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Valentín Benavente said: Bearing in mind that there are pretty decent free or inexpensive third party options out there, I think it is a waste of time to code it into Designer. In fact, I don't rely on one single tracer, having two already installed plus an online one, as they provide different results. So, for me, having one more tracer built into Designer should be nice, but absolutely not important. Well, by that reasoning developing Designer is a waste of time since free alternatives exists (Inkscape). 4 hours ago, Andy05 said: Seriously, tracing an image (turning a raster image into vectors) is a one-time procedure to be done to an image during the design process. The result will be used in further workflow and in a design/layout. It's not that much of a downside, using dedicated apps for this process. Neither in time needed for this, nor in functionality. And doing that in Designer is the correct workflow, if I need to use third-party applications Designer has failed. It a simple feature request, not hard to implement IMHO. Quote
Petar Petrenko Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ole-André said: It a simple feature request, not hard to implement IMHO. Do you think you can learn in an hour or two to play any instrument only by listening to professional musicians how easy they play? Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100)
Pšenda Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, NNN said: Do you think you can learn in an hour or two to play any instrument only by listening to professional musicians how easy they play? I think that the very fact that there are so many different implementations of the autotrace functionality that provide different and often completely unsatisfactory results, and that there are specialized companies that have made a very good business out of it, clearly points to the fact - that it really not easy to implement. Otherwise, everyone would write the ten lines of code themselves, and not have to turn to a professional solution. Valentín Benavente 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Andy05 Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Ole-André said: And doing that in Designer is the correct workflow, if I need to use third-party applications Designer has failed. Utter nonsense. Using dedicated tools for single special tasks is the correct approach. Not recognising this is failing. I wouldn't want Designer doing 3D renders either, although I need them in quite some of my clients' work. As @Pšenda already stated—and I agree with the "often completely unsatisfactory" part, which is true for most implemented auto tracing features in other design apps: 2 hours ago, Pšenda said: I think that the very fact that there are so many different implementations of the autotrace functionality that provide different and often completely unsatisfactory results, and that there are specialized companies that have made a very good business out of it, clearly points to the fact - that it really not easy to implement. Otherwise, everyone would write the ten lines of code themselves, and not have to turn to a professional solution. Dedicated apps for such tasks, which solely concentrate on creating a useful output, are there for a reason. It's by far not "an easy thing" to implement, otherwise Corel's or Adobe's built-in vectorisation probably wouldn't fail that often. Valentín Benavente 1 Quote »There are three responses to a piece of design: yes, no, and wow. Wow is the one to aim for.« Milton Glaser (1929 - 2020)
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