JustLooking Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 I know this has been broached several times, but I think it needs to be brought to the fore again because this is the major factor that prevents Photo being my default picture editor. I find I am using IrfanView to crop, adjust exposures, etc., instead of Photo. Right now I am using Designer and I am seriously considering something else. The reason is that I click on the app icon, or 'open with' on a file, and the splash screen comes up instantly. Short pause then blank application windows, then... well, let's go and make coffee. It is actively encouraging me NOT to start Affinity products because the update check takes so long. Further, if I right click a file and use 'open with', I should think it pretty obvious that I'm not going to think, "Oh, a new update, I'll just abort what I'm doing and update so something can break and I can't continue with what I meant to do." No, if I update it'll be right at the moment when I am wanting to do some work. Reading other threads, I see there is apparently a way to prevent the update check on startup. But it's so secret it can only be passed on via a private message. What? You have to be kidding! Why is it so important that it's forced on us every startup (but we can then decline to do anything about it)? I can't imagine why this check is so important you're will to annoy me to the extent that I an loath to use your product! Quote
Hangman Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, JustLooking said: Reading other threads, I see there is apparently a way to prevent the update check on startup. But it's so secret it can only be passed on via a private message. What? You have to be kidding! Why is it so important that it's forced on us every startup (but we can then decline to do anything about it)? I can't imagine why this check is so important you're will to annoy me to the extent that I an loath to use your product! Can you not simply change the 'Check for updates' frequency or are you referring to something else entirely? Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3106 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3106 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3106 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
JustLooking Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 That kind of option would be great, but on Windows it doesn't exist. However, I've now fixed it via the registry which, of course, makes it an entirely manual 'check the website' thing now. Sometimes I think you Mac owners have far too easy a life! Quote
Hangman Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JustLooking said: Sometimes I think you Mac owners have far too easy a life! 🏖🍸😎 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3106 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3106 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3106 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
henryg Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, JustLooking said: However, I've now fixed it via the registry Care to share? Quote
David in Яuislip Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Serif\Affinity\Photo\1 and change the value of No Update Check to 1 at your own risk of course, usual caveats for registry edits henryg 1 Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10
JustLooking Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 As David says, set No Update Check to 1. Doesn't make it start up any faster, though Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, JustLooking said: Doesn't make it start up any faster, though The update check takes no measureable time for me (or none that I know how to measure). Are you sure it's not enumerating fonts? That's a common reason for slow application startup on Windows. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
JustLooking Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 I'm sure of nothing! But I do seem to have a fair number of fonts. Is there a way to reduce their effect? Other applications that use fonts don't seem to be slowed much on starting. Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JustLooking said: But I do seem to have a fair number of fonts. Is there a way to reduce their effect? Only by using a Font Manager and keeping the fonts that you don't need inactive until you need them. How many fonts do you have? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
JustLooking Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 Seems I have 314 items in the font directory. However, it's more complicated than that. Using Procmon I found that Designer (which is what I'm playing with today, and which suffers the same issue) takes 6 seconds to get to the fonts and then deals with them in less than 1 second (that is, 6.393 - 6.991 relative time). But then Designer goes through them all again, and this time takes 12 seconds (7.811 - 16.748). Perhaps the first run was just scouting for the second. But that's not all either. After the fonts Designer then spends almost 18 seconds dealing with C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color\Photo.gmmp (17.027 - 34.973). Photo.gmmp is a Windows files and, apparently, can suffer corruption. However, I just compared my live version with a downloaded 'clean' version and they were identical. So, I am still sure of nothing walt.farrell 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 HW Acceleration off? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
JustLooking Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 Yep - Windows 7 and it's not available for that. But wouldn't that only be effective once things are being drawn? Quote
Pšenda Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 If under "drawn" you mean rendering on the canvas and desktop, then yes. Context with HW acceleration are often surprising, just search the forum, how many seemingly unrelated problems its shutdown solved. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
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