Saving a file as an EPS

[wonderings]

1 hour ago, loukash said:

Fair enough, I made it up.
But… look around you. All good logos are plain vector. All great logos even look great in pure b/w.
There's a lot of excellent "logo design lessons" out there.

And this logo design "law" I definitely didn't make up:

Less is more!

I would agree if the logo is ever going to be used for print. We get a lot of people who come in and want to print envelopes or other basic stationary. Their logo was designed by someone in Photoshop with no real understanding of design and designing for a medium. You want to be able to affordably print your logo. Generally this means a 2 colour logo, be it 2 pantones or one pantone + K. The other option is that the logo looks good converted to 1 colour black/grayscale. Printing 4 colour over 2 colour or 1 colour black is expensive and many business have had us fix up or redesign their logos so they would work for their various needs at affordable prices. 

[loukash]

12 minutes ago, wavyglanbles said:

where have I gone wrong?

Just from a very quick look at your screencast – I'm currently busy – you seem to be using layer effects somewhere. Those will rasterize the content.

[MikeW]

50 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

... But no-one in real world would create a 10x10m print original (or even half ot it) in 1:1 scale. 

Really?

[wavyglanbles]

It was the ink layer, but I removed the effects before I did the clipping, just to show where the marks are.

[thomaso]

24 minutes ago, wavyglanbles said:

Might be obvious, but where have I gone wrong?

It seems to be your layer hierarchy. Try the nesting vice versa, place texture inside shape. As demonstrated in various screenshots/videos above.

Beyond the vector-only discussion: If you delete invisible parts of the texture (you actually use less than ~10% of the total image snippets), then an exported EPS will have smaller file size + be less demanding in a print process because it contains less of the masked objects.

[wavyglanbles]

I've tried both ways, texture on shape, and shape on texture, and they're both the same result.

[loukash]

The red part is what you want to knock out of the ellipses, right?
If so, you'll have to invert the texture first to become the new fill, e.g. by boolean subtract from an intermediate solid fill rectangle or ellipse.
Then crop the result with the group of your ellipses.

[wavyglanbles]

5 minutes ago, loukash said:

The red part is what you want to knock out of the ellipses, right?
If so, you'll have to invert the texture first to become the new fill, e.g. by boolean subtract from an intermediate solid fill rectangle or ellipse.
Then crop the result with the group of your ellipses.

I did find out eventually that I had to invert it and did it a harder and longer way to what you said. I managed to add all the curves from the texture vector together (took a long time), then subtract from a rectangle to create the negative space. That did work! So at this moment, I finally got it working and exported to a PDF. It's not in the layers I did on the afdesign, but I don't mind that, it works so well!

Thank you and everyone else on here so much for your help! I really appreciate it. 

 

[loukash]

Let us know if the client's happy. cheers!

[wavyglanbles]

One other tiny thing is that I've converted the text on my logo as curves when exporting the PDF, due to the text getting smaller when I enlarge the logo. Is converting the text to curves a better idea anyway?

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[thomaso]

16 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

But perhaps the PDF was just erroneously exported.

I remember ~15 years ago that PDF (or just Adobe apps?) had a 5 meter limit for page size. That's why I mentioned above the limitation as one reason for working in 1:10.
And vague it reminds me now to a discussion with @MikeW years ago about such PDF limits and I guess he mentioned the limit got changed over years.

[walt.farrell]

According to https://support.activepdf.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003038233-How-to-determine-the-PDF-Page-Size

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Per the ISO 32000 standard for PDF, the page dimension limit is 14,400 PDF units in each direction. A PDF unit is 1/72 of an inch so the limit equates to a maximum page size of  200 x 200 inches. (5080 x 5080 mm). 

Note that although the ISO PDF standard is explicit about the 14400 unit limit, some software vendors may choose to ignore it and create non-compliant documents. If your PDF viewer also ignores the standard, you will be able to view it. If your PDF viewer respects the standard, then results are likely to be blank page or a software crash.

 

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[walt.farrell]

3 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

But in Publisher:

21674,7 x 21674,7 mm (and it might be OS dependent...

At what DPI?

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[walt.farrell]

9 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

300dpi.

Thanks. For what it's worth, Publisher (Beta) lets me go very much larger than you, and I have no trouble getting to 200 in x 200 in (5080 mm x 5080 mm).

[MikeW]

48 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

Well, that was probably too much said, but I was referring to the fact that producing a 10 x 10m PDF at 300dpi from this simple graphic failed to open in Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020, and opened only the lower left quarter, ...

I've attached a sample at 400" x 200" and unless your Acrobat/Reader is not displaying the size, you'll need to turn it on. But here's a screen shot:

 

Just now, walt.farrell said:

Thanks. For what it's worth, Publisher (Beta) lets me go very much larger than you, and I have no trouble getting to 200 in x 200 in (5080 mm x 5080 mm).

The normal pdf limit is 200"

Have fun...

 

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[loukash]

Folks, can't we keep the thread a bit more focused on @wavyglanbles actual topic? thanks
(Yes, I know, it's my fault just as well.)

[wavyglanbles]

I have text on my logo, but when I have it as a text file rather than setting it to curves, the text gets smaller when I enlarge the logo in the PDF. Is there any way of overcoming this?

[loukash]

1 hour ago, wavyglanbles said:

Is converting the text to curves a better idea anyway?

If you're giving your logo to a client for further use, definitely yes.

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[MikeW]

1 minute ago, Lagarto said:

@MikeW I can open this but it says in the preflight that this is a scaled file,... 

Yes, the Viewer Scale is what is altered. Architects have long used the technique for large scale plotting. 

That pdf will print at that size to all genuine Adobe RIPs, and some that are not. Now, a printed billboard will also be a tiled print as that's how they are done. 

Anyway, back to the OP's discussion. Sorry for the off topic contributions. 

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