Affitoom Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Can you designate an exclusive panel for what has to do with the administration of the "artboards"?, something like what illustrator has. Just so you don't accumulate a bunch of "Artboards", each with its own layers (be it a few or a lot) in the layers panel. Some way to show, in the layers panel, only the layers corresponding to the "Artboard" in which we are working, for greater order. IngeFromHolland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Affitoom said: something like what illustrator has Well, I, for one, am happy not having to deal with an Artboard panel "like what illustrator has" anymore. The Affinity workflow treating artboards as objects is a brilliant feature, even though it took me some time to get used to it after being brainwashed by Adobe's clunky "artboards" for a decade (even while being "happy" that they finally added multi-artboards years after they killed my beloved Freehand!) So definitely a "-1" from me for this request. (Nothing personal… ) Also, are you aware that you can convert any vector shape to an artboard, and vice versa? 4 hours ago, Affitoom said: a bunch of "Artboards", each with its own layers (be it a few or a lot) in the layers panel. Layers don't need to be inside an artboard in the Layers panel stack. You can set up artboards like pages in background, having a "floating" layer with all objects above all of them. 4 hours ago, Affitoom said: Some way to show, in the layers panel, only the layers corresponding to the "Artboard" in which we are working, for greater order. I don't understand this request. Can you please elaborate? Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 6 hours ago, loukash said: Well, I, for one, am happy not having to deal with an Artboard panel "like what illustrator has" anymore. The Affinity workflow treating artboards as objects is a brilliant feature I, too, do not have the desire to see a seperate Artboard panel. But ... if it were possible to visually filter the layers panel by certain criteria, e.g. 'only show Artboards' or even 'only show the current Artboard's childlayers' we could have a very powerful feature to work with. d. Affitoom and garrettm30 2 Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affitoom Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 hours ago, loukash said: Well, I, for one, am happy not having to deal with an Artboard panel "like what illustrator has" anymore. The Affinity workflow treating artboards as objects is a brilliant feature, even though it took me some time to get used to it after being brainwashed by Adobe's clunky "artboards" for a decade (even while being "happy" that they finally added multi-artboards years after they killed my beloved Freehand!) So definitely a "-1" from me for this request. (Nothing personal… ) Also, are you aware that you can convert any vector shape to an artboard, and vice versa? Layers don't need to be inside an artboard in the Layers panel stack. You can set up artboards like pages in background, having a "floating" layer with all objects above all of them. I don't understand this request. Can you please elaborate? Yes, all that is great, what I request is to keep the layer panel more free. That only the layers of the "Artboard" in which you are working are shown. Example: if I am in an "artboard 1" the layers panel only shows the layers of that "artboar 1" and if I switch to "artboard 2" the layers panel shows me only the layers of "artboard 2" ". I think all the features of the Afinitty artboards that you like shouldn't have to change at all. It is just so that there is more order in the layer panel and not so many layers accumulate that it makes its administration more difficult. Thank you for your response and criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Affitoom said: what I request is to keep the layer panel more free. That only the layers of the "Artboard" in which you are working are shown. Example: if I am in an "artboard 1" the layers panel only shows the layers of that "artboar 1" and if I switch to "artboard 2" the layers panel shows me only the layers of "artboard 2" ". And what about the layers that are not in either Artboard 1 nor in Artboard 2, but overlap those artboards for some purpose? Affitoom 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Affitoom said: Example: if I am in an "artboard 1" the layers panel only shows the layers of that "artboar 1" and if I switch to "artboard 2" the layers panel shows me only the layers of "artboard 2" ". I got it. That sounds like the "isolated mode" in Illustrator. That would be useful. (Although frankly, even in Illustrator I have rarely used it, even in most complex multipage layouts with literally hundreds of layers/objects/groups. But that's likely just me because I always keep my Layers panel painstakingly organized… ) 16 minutes ago, Affitoom said: It is just so that there is more order in the layer panel and not so many layers accumulate that it makes its administration more difficult. The thing is that Affinity allows almost unlimited flexibility in the Layers panel, and that's by design. It's a feature, and then some. Apart from a bunch of bugs, that is… But you can nest/clip/crop objects as you see fit, regardless if it's layers, artboards, groups, symbols, vectors, fills, placed images, masks, adjustments, pixels, text, you name it. Artboards are just a container/object (it's a hybrid!) class amongst many. That all said, I definitely wouldn't oppose a few more options for artboards in particular, like Zoom To Active Artboard keyboard shortcut (I know I can click, but I'm a shortcut guy). 13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: And what about the layers that are not in either Artboard 1 nor in Artboard 2, but overlap those artboards for some purpose? Coincidentally, we're just having a somewhat related discussion overhere: Affitoom 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affitoom Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: And what about the layers that are not in either Artboard 1 nor in Artboard 2, but overlap those artboards for some purpose? Well, good question. I suppose that there could no longer be layers that were not associated with some "Artboard", not with this feature or workflow that I propose. Thanks for the question walt.farrell Edited May 28, 2021 by Affitoom walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 As stated in the forum rules, it is a good idea to search for existing threads with requests (add your comment to them if necessary), and not recreate more and more of the same requests. https://www.google.com/search?q=Exclusive+panel+for+Artboards+site%3Aforum.affinity.serif.com For example: Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngeFromHolland Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 +1 Yes, a panel just like the guides manager, to make it easier to resize or rearrange the artboards, would be awesome! Affitoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, IngeFromHolland said: Yes, a panel just like the guides manager I don't understand the context with the Guide Manager. Do you mean the one in the View\Guides Manager menu? 4 hours ago, IngeFromHolland said: to make it easier to resize or rearrange the artboards If you use Collapse Selection (context menu), then only Artboards will be displayed in the Layers panel - ie their reorganization/rearrange, or changing the size and position using the Transform panel, is very easy. loukash 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 7 hours ago, IngeFromHolland said: to make it easier to resize or rearrange the artboards Why? This is not Illustrator with its clunky "slapped-on-but-coming-15-years-too-late-to-the-party" artboard "concept" (or rather the lack thereof). Affinity artboards are objects. Use the Move tool or the Artboard tool, as well as the Transform, Layers and Appearance panels, and edit, resize and rearrange as you see fit. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngeFromHolland Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 7:14 PM, loukash said: Why? This is not Illustrator with its clunky "slapped-on-but-coming-15-years-too-late-to-the-party" artboard "concept" (or rather the lack thereof). Affinity artboards are objects. Use the Move tool or the Artboard tool, as well as the Transform, Layers and Appearance panels, and edit, resize and rearrange as you see fit. I am doing that now, and this works very well indeed if you have a few 'artboards', but if you have heaps of them, I think it will be easier to rearrange rows and/or columns with a few clicks rather than doing each row/culumn seperately. The more time you can save by clicking and dragging less, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngeFromHolland Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 5:03 PM, Pšenda said: I don't understand the context with the Guide Manager. Do you mean the one in the View\Guides Manager menu? I can see that this is very unclear... I guess I was pleasantly surpised by this panel, it seems quite organized, so I mean a panel like that... On 6/9/2021 at 5:03 PM, Pšenda said: If you use Collapse Selection (context menu), then only Artboards will be displayed in the Layers panel - ie their reorganization/rearrange, or changing the size and position using the Transform panel, is very easy. Is this what you mean? Otherwise I'm a little lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, IngeFromHolland said: Is this what you mean? Otherwise I'm a little lost... This is "Context Toolbar". "Context menu" (right click on Layers panel) is this. IngeFromHolland 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, IngeFromHolland said: Quote If you use Collapse Selection (context menu), then only Artboards will be displayed in the Layers panel - ie their reorganization/rearrange, or changing the size and position using the Transform panel, is very easy. Is this what you mean? What he means is context menu in the Layers panel. For example: Select > Select All > Artboards (selects all artboard objects in the Layers panel) right-click one of the selected artboards in the Layers panel Collapse Selection Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngeFromHolland Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Thanks @Pšenda!! Yeah, I usually have them collapsed indeed, I just click the little triangle left of the artboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, IngeFromHolland said: but if you have heaps of them Unlike Illustrator, you can place artboards into other containers just like any other objects. So you can use layers, groups or other "master" artboards to organize artboards logically in the "vertical" dimension of the Layers panel. When using nested artboards, add e.g. a background fill: Frankly, there are a few quirks and somewhat unexpected behavior at times, but generally it works. If you're using artboards a lot, you will get a "feeling" for them eventually… See also a similar recent post: IngeFromHolland 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngeFromHolland Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Interesting! Thanks, will give it a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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