Marek Stepanek Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Hello all! Reading a PDF compiled with LaTeX into Affinity Publisher has missing spaces. An other "normal" PDF from internet is properly rendered. I am a beginner with Affinity Tools. So be patient if this is a naive question. I did not find a question in the FAQ mentioning "pdf". Best greetings to all marek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Does the PDF (LaTeX) open fine in other apps or Adobe Acrobat Reader or PDF specific apps? If possible upload the LaTeX PDF. For those curious about LaTeX: https://www.latex-project.org/get/ Note for Mac users: The MacTeX download is approx 4.2GB Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Stepanek Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 Thnx firstdefence Here a Minimal Non-working example. The table is not rendering well and all headlines (The table overlaps in Preview too - my hope was to drag this table a bit higher in Affinity Publisher or Designer). Opening in Preview looks fine. May I ask a supplemental question: how to set the spelling language for the entire file? Best greetings again marek table_test02.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted July 7, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 7, 2020 Hi Marek, Thanks for the PDF file. When i open the attached PDF, i get told about missing fonts and the fonts don't have what i/we would class as a proper font name, eg they are all CMR8 ect, so i think this may all be down to us not reading the embedded fonts in the PDF (something none of the Affinity apps can currently do). I suspect the other app is creating its own font names and embedding those into the PDF (i'm just waiting for the download to complete to confirm this) If you have these fonts installed (CMR8 ect) and they accessible outside of LaTex then the PDF should open correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XENOTpro Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 CMR8, etc. is indeed a font set. CMXX stands for Computer Modern and was developed by Donald E. Knuth. I'm having the same problem here. I installed all the fonts from here (https://ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bakoma/) but still it doesn't look right at all. I tried replacing all the fonts with the right one, but still many elements just break and it seems like all white spaces vanish. I attached a screenshot. (left: affinity, right: original) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XENOTpro Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Couldn't there be an option where the PDF doesn't get parsed to editable text fields at all but rather imported as a set of paths? That way it's not editable text but at least it's identical to the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benwiggy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Yes: an option to outline font glyphs in imported PDFs would solve so many of these problems. Currently, Affinity can outline subset embedded fonts in EPS files, for accurate import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, XENOTpro said: Couldn't there be an option where the PDF doesn't get parsed to editable text fields at all but rather imported as a set of paths? That way it's not editable text but at least it's identical to the original. 33 minutes ago, benwiggy said: Yes: an option to outline font glyphs in imported PDFs would solve so many of these problems. Currently, Affinity can outline subset embedded fonts in EPS files, for accurate import. Without the ability to interpret embedded fonts, how could the Affinity apps create a set of paths/outlines on import? And once they become capable of interpreting embedded fonts, they will be able to display them correctly and (optionally) keep them editable. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benwiggy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Alfred said: Without the ability to interpret embedded fonts, how could the Affinity apps create a set of paths/outlines on import? EPS files with embedded fonts are outlined and imported accurately, even for glyphs that fail in PDF import. Without seeing the code, I can't tell you how they do it. I've tested files made directly in Illustrator and saved as EPS, and PDFs saved as EPS in Acrobat. And from PostScript files converted to EPS in GhostScript. In fact, Affinity apps will open standard PostScript files, if they are single-page files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XENOTpro Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I don't get why Affinity can't accurately import PDF even after I installed all the fonts required to my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wonderings Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 This has been an issue since the beta, some see it as a feature, I and many others see it as a massive flaw. My guess is this will be fixed for V2 as that will make it a big selling feature for that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Stepanek Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Thank you all for the many knowledgeable answers! It was more out of curiosity that I started this thread. A real LaTeX user would never edit a PDF in a graphic tool. He would try to tweak it in the source.tex itself. Interestingly GIMP opens my pdf without any flaw. (To remember how I create my texts: pandoc > Markdown.md (with YAML Placeholders) > LaTeX_template.tex > file.pdf) Best greetings to all marek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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