Sephen Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Why are the guide measurements different in a Artboard? I've got two Artboards but in the second Artboard the measurements are not the same as in the guide manager?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve tried various ways to replicate this on Windows and can’t see how you got into this situation. It’s easy to get a guide to have a negative position, just drag it off the artboard to the left, but I can’t get it to also be displayed on-screen. I’ve tried overlaying artboards, putting one inside another, and all kinds of other things, and can’t get what you are seeing. Any chance you can share the file? It could be something basic but it’s hard to tell with just a partial screen grab. P.S. I noticed that Spread Origin X = 47.6 and Guide Position = -44.027 and that makes 3.573 which is close to what you are seeing (3.556) but not quite. This might not be anything to do with it but I thought I’d bring it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Do a screen grab with rulers displayed. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephen Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'm trying to get the guide at 3,5mm but that's completely impossible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Why is Spread Origin = 47,6 mm? Edit: and why is Guide negative number? My ADe is't showing negative Guide. Guide position is always positive number from left artboard border. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Pšenda said: Edit: and why is Guide negative number? My ADe is't showing negative Guide. Guide position is always positive number from left artboard border. Because it needs to be negative to compensate for the spread origin, which as you note is 47.6 mm. 47.6 + (-44.027) = 3.573, which matches the position shown on the ruler. Pšenda 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Because it needs to be negative to compensate for the spread origin, which as you note is 47.6 mm. I think, it was more of a reaction to someone else (probably GarryP). As I write (and what you responded to), the negative guide does not show me at all. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Sephen said: In your screenshot is Spread Origin = 47,6 mm, but Artboard starts (left border) on 0 (see Ruler). It is strange. You show same artboard as you Guides set? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Pšenda said: In your screenshot is Spread Origin = 47,6 mm, but Artboard starts (left border) on 0 (see Ruler). It is strange. You show same artboard as you Guides set? I think that the 47.6mm is only entered placed into the well, it hasn't yet been entered. That explains the 0,0 origin in the artboard. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Old Bruce said: I think that the 47.6mm is only entered placed into the well, it hasn't yet been entered. That explains the 0,0 origin in the artboard. Yes, that could be. If the value for the origin is entered, it is accepted after clicking the Close button. A little non-standard behavior of the dialog, because it should have buttons Yes and Cancel. I think there is a problem in two or more artboards, because they originate from the most left/top artboard position. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Pšenda said: I think there is a problem in two or more artboards, because they originate from the most left/top artboard position. I am pretty sure that bug (?) / problem has been reported. Pšenda 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephen Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 This is when i change the Spread Origin to x0-y0... Same problem only now the other way around. Problem even persists after closing an reopening Guides manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 As I asked in my earlier post, would it be possible for you to share the actual afdesign file? (Or a cut-down version that displays the same issue.) Doing so would make it much easier for us to see if the same thing happens for us and that may help greatly in the diagnosis process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephen Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 This is the file without the elements but the issue remains. FileForForum.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Thanks for sharing the file. On Windows 10, some observations are: 1. With the right-hand artboard selected, after opening the Guides Manager, I cannot change the Spread Origin X but when I change the Spread Origin Y things go a bit ‘screwy’ (see attached GIF). 2. Dragging the ruler origin to the top-left of the right-hand artboard seems to put the guide at the correct position. I think if we knew what was going on in the GIF it might help us to figure out what the problem is and why item 2 seems to fix things. Or this might have nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This behavior is caused by the left artboard, which affects (incorrectly) the definition of the origin (see my previous post). Try deleting them. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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